.416-ruger!

Tracer · 02-02-2010, 05:08 PM

I been seriously thinking about the .416-Ruger for an African hunt coming up next year. Anybody got anything to say about this caliber and the Ruger Hawkeye?

bigweatherby · 03-09-2010, 09:02 AM

I have been to Zimbabwe. It is am awesome hunt. Good luck!

What's not so great is when the airline loses the luggage that your ammo is in. Yep, it happens, believe me. I brought a 460 Weatherby and a 375 H&H. I had to borrow ammo for the first few days until British Airways flew my bag out to the camp.

There was no 460 ammo anywhere to borrow. They had plenty of 375 though, so I was in business. They also had 416 Rugby and Remington, 458 Winchester. And 30-06.

If you are heading over, I recommend having a 375 H&H and if you are taking a larger rifle, make it a popular round.

If you want to use the Ruger round, ship plenty of ammo over to your outfitter well ahead of time.

bigweatherby · 03-09-2010, 09:02 AM

I have been to Zimbabwe. It is am awesome hunt. Good luck!

What's not so great is when the airline loses the luggage that your ammo is in. Yep, it happens, believe me. I brought a 460 Weatherby and a 375 H&H. I had to borrow ammo for the first few days until British Airways flew my bag out to the camp.

There was no 460 ammo anywhere to borrow. They had plenty of 375 though, so I was in business. They also had 416 Rugby and Remington, 458 Winchester. And 30-06.

If you are heading over, I recommend having a 375 H&H and if you are taking a larger rifle, make it a popular round.

If you want to use the Ruger round, ship plenty of ammo over to your outfitter well ahead of time.

Tracer · 03-09-2010, 01:11 PM

Actually I am thinking about having some work done on my .416-Remington mag, just have to contact the proper people. Yes, the .375 caliber is universal you might say and a good one to have with you anytime.

bigweatherby · 03-10-2010, 10:45 AM

I am sure the Ruger round would be fine ballistically. Anything pushing around a 400 grain bullet over 2300 would make a fine heavy rifle. Much slower and the PH wont like it for thick skin dangerous game. Too much faster and they will frown on it too. Most hate the Weatherby cartridges.

Tracer · 03-10-2010, 07:39 PM

I knew a PH in Zim. who carried a short barrels .460 Weatherby rifle and he was very fast shouldering that gun. He liked the .460 a bunch!

bigweatherby · 03-11-2010, 03:03 PM

Yeah, I am sure there are a few. I just think they hate to see clients show up with them since most can't handle them. My PH said that most guys buy the big Weatherby right before the hunt and only shoot it enough to develop a monster flinch. Then they proceed to head over to africa and wound or miss alot of game. The PH and trackers work very hard to get the clients shots at good animals. The two worst things you can do when you go over there are #1, not being able to shoot your rifle well and #2, being so outa shape that you can't walk very far.

On a side note, one of the best things you can do is to bring a couple large bags full of Jolly Ranchers!

Tracer · 03-17-2010, 09:14 PM

South African hunting for the most part is shooting at an average distance of 75 yards! One doesn't have to be a super skilled marksman to take trophy type animals over there.

Lobocop · 03-17-2010, 09:40 PM

I have fired both a 416 and a 375. Both kick like a mule, with the 416 hedging the 375 a little. Either should do the job as long as you do your part.

Tracer · 03-19-2010, 10:59 AM

Lobocop, the thing I have always like about the .416 caliber is that with 300 grain bullets, it shoots as fast as a 30-06 with heavy bullets. Then you can stoke it full of those 400 grainers and hunt the dangerous things in the woods or jungle.

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02-02-2010, 05:08 PM	#1
Tracer Freedom, Thank a VET!!! Joined: Jan 2010 From: Mid-West Posts: 1,159	.416-ruger! I been seriously thinking about the .416-Ruger for an African hunt coming up next year. Anybody got anything to say about this caliber and the Ruger Hawkeye?

03-09-2010, 09:02 AM	#2
bigweatherby Joined: Mar 2010 From: South-west Michigan Posts: 1,301	I have been to Zimbabwe. It is am awesome hunt. Good luck! What's not so great is when the airline loses the luggage that your ammo is in. Yep, it happens, believe me. I brought a 460 Weatherby and a 375 H&H. I had to borrow ammo for the first few days until British Airways flew my bag out to the camp. There was no 460 ammo anywhere to borrow. They had plenty of 375 though, so I was in business. They also had 416 Rugby and Remington, 458 Winchester. And 30-06. If you are heading over, I recommend having a 375 H&H and if you are taking a larger rifle, make it a popular round. If you want to use the Ruger round, ship plenty of ammo over to your outfitter well ahead of time.

03-09-2010, 01:11 PM	#4
Tracer Freedom, Thank a VET!!! Joined: Jan 2010 From: Mid-West Posts: 1,159	Actually I am thinking about having some work done on my .416-Remington mag, just have to contact the proper people. Yes, the .375 caliber is universal you might say and a good one to have with you anytime.

03-10-2010, 10:45 AM	#5
bigweatherby Joined: Mar 2010 From: South-west Michigan Posts: 1,301	I am sure the Ruger round would be fine ballistically. Anything pushing around a 400 grain bullet over 2300 would make a fine heavy rifle. Much slower and the PH wont like it for thick skin dangerous game. Too much faster and they will frown on it too. Most hate the Weatherby cartridges.

03-10-2010, 07:39 PM	#6
Tracer Freedom, Thank a VET!!! Joined: Jan 2010 From: Mid-West Posts: 1,159	I knew a PH in Zim. who carried a short barrels .460 Weatherby rifle and he was very fast shouldering that gun. He liked the .460 a bunch!

03-11-2010, 03:03 PM	#7
bigweatherby Joined: Mar 2010 From: South-west Michigan Posts: 1,301	Yeah, I am sure there are a few. I just think they hate to see clients show up with them since most can't handle them. My PH said that most guys buy the big Weatherby right before the hunt and only shoot it enough to develop a monster flinch. Then they proceed to head over to africa and wound or miss alot of game. The PH and trackers work very hard to get the clients shots at good animals. The two worst things you can do when you go over there are #1, not being able to shoot your rifle well and #2, being so outa shape that you can't walk very far. On a side note, one of the best things you can do is to bring a couple large bags full of Jolly Ranchers!

03-17-2010, 09:14 PM	#8
Tracer Freedom, Thank a VET!!! Joined: Jan 2010 From: Mid-West Posts: 1,159	South African hunting for the most part is shooting at an average distance of 75 yards! One doesn't have to be a super skilled marksman to take trophy type animals over there.

03-17-2010, 09:40 PM	#9
Lobocop Joined: Mar 2010 From: Nevada Posts: 33	I have fired both a 416 and a 375. Both kick like a mule, with the 416 hedging the 375 a little. Either should do the job as long as you do your part.

03-19-2010, 10:59 AM	#10
Tracer Freedom, Thank a VET!!! Joined: Jan 2010 From: Mid-West Posts: 1,159	Lobocop, the thing I have always like about the .416 caliber is that with 300 grain bullets, it shoots as fast as a 30-06 with heavy bullets. Then you can stoke it full of those 400 grainers and hunt the dangerous things in the woods or jungle.