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Old February 16th, 2016, 02:02 PM   #1
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JR carbine 9mm.

Any of you folks have these? How do they run? I find it weird that since production in about 2011, there are very little reviews on them. One you-tuber,, sooch, gives them rave reviews, several times. But he is the only one, which I also find odd. ( could be some sponsorship stuff going on there).,
One prominent you tube gun tester we all know, but I Wont say his handle, emailed me they had one and it wouldnt fire two rounds in a row without jamming. But he failed to tell me which caliber and what year. The early ones did have some problems, but JR seemed to fix several things,, like dumping screws for allen head.
There is a complete absence of video reviews,, and for only one guy to do several,, ALL GREAT,,,, seems odd as well.

I seen where 45 cal had FTF problems with glock mags, nothing on the .40.
I really want a 9mm carbine for a range plinker and maybe a back up varmint rifle. So good accuracy would be a requirement. The only review on accuracy stated 2 inch @ 25 yards. I can use my 3.8 barrel 9mm EDC and do that. what about 50 & 100 yards?
there was also an Armscor 9mm bolt action, but reviews say the machine work is horrible & cheap.
Both rifles are around $750, which is pretty steep considering. Add some good optics, your into it for a grand easy. For $4 or 5, Id be willing to take a chance on a generic no name MFG. but not for $750 -$800. Any good suggestions?




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Any of you folks have these? How do they run? I find it weird that since production in about 2011, there are very little reviews on them. One you-tuber,, sooch, gives them rave reviews, several times. But he is the only one, which I also find odd. ( could be some sponsorship stuff going on there).,
One prominent you tube gun tester we all know, but I Wont say his handle, emailed me they had one and it wouldnt fire two rounds in a row without jamming. But he failed to tell me which caliber and what year. The early ones did have some problems, but JR seemed to fix several things,, like dumping screws for allen head.
There is a complete absence of video reviews,, and for only one guy to do several,, ALL GREAT,,,, seems odd as well.

I seen where 45 cal had FTF problems with glock mags, nothing on the .40.
I really want a 9mm carbine for a range plinker and maybe a back up varmint rifle. So good accuracy would be a requirement. The only review on accuracy stated 2 inch @ 25 yards. I can use my 3.8 barrel 9mm EDC and do that. what about 50 & 100 yards?
there was also an Armscor 9mm bolt action, but reviews say the machine work is horrible & cheap.
Both rifles are around $750, which is pretty steep considering. Add some good optics, your into it for a grand easy. For $4 or 5, Id be willing to take a chance. but not for $750. Any good suggestions?
I had a chance to shoot one (9mm) last Friday. A guy at my gun club brought one in. It is a thing of beauty!! The "lower" is machined very, very nicely from aluminum. The finish reminds me of the old Colt or S&W revolvers...very well done. The trigger is very good, I'd guess that it is around 6 lbs, or so. But it is crisp and has very little creep. The gun was bought that day and by the time I fired it, it had only 50-60 rounds through it. The gun feels solid, but not heavy. I loved shooting it. It seems like it will be very nice to have. I'm now considering selling my Camp 9 to buy one of the JR Carbines.
The only thing (not a big deal to me) is that there is no bolt hold open when empty. But you can pull it back and manually lock it open. His takes Glock mags, and I have a bunch of them, so that is what I'd get too. He paid $735 locally. The prices that I am seeing online for the Camp 9, in great condition as mine is, are up to and around $600. That and I bought a new "lower" for the Camp 9. They are some kind of polymer, looking a lot like Bakelite really. I have heard of a few instances where some were broken, and I figured that while they were still available, I'd get one. So far, I haven't needed it. I also put in the Wolff spring and new buffer that are always recommended. Selling that, will help make the JR very affordable.
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The whole concept behind the JR seems pretty cool. All the furniture and trigger group are AR15 compatible and mil spec,,, so upgrades are quick and easy. It would be the cats meow for me if it took 92 or 75 mags,, but thats not really a big deal. I dont own a glock, but @ $25 per 17 rd mag off Greg Cote, thats not an issue.
It would be nice to talk with someone who has shot it off the bench with a nice scope and see where its at. Any info Ive read on the machine work, its top notch, so I think theres a good chance it could be dialed into some pretty decent accuracy with a little fine tuning. I just dont want a "jammomatic" that throws lead everywhere but at the target..
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The JR is made in my old hometown in NY. They seem to get decent reviews and are generally reliable. I like the Glock mag aspect. I don't care for the price (considering the build the last time I checked one over).

I'm currently working on a 9mm AR build that takes Glock mags. Palmetto State Armory (PSA) is now offering the 9mm AR that takes Glock mags. To buy it whole, it's pricier ($900ish). To buy it in two pieces... $650ish.

The lower is made by Frontier Arms. Reviews so far have been good. It takes Glock mags. It has positive reviews. It works like an AR... Which means more AR accessories and parts. This is a win in my book.

I'll assemble an upper soon. The lower is what I needed.

Keltec also makes the Sub2000 which takes Glock mags (or S&W or Beretta 92) and is around $450 if you can find them.

Various options out there...

Also, Glock OEM mags can easily be had for $20 each. Magpul Glock mags can be had even cheaper ($13-15).
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Here is a resource from a member, penz83:

9mm Carbine!!
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I had one in 45 acp good shooting accurate and takes glock mags. I sold it to buy a ruger pc 40.
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Thanks for the resources Neon Horse. The armscor bolt action looked really inviting in pictures, but the reviews are nasty. DSC01600.jpg

Really for me, the simpler the better. A bolt action would have been just dandy for what i want it for. In fact, Id prefer it. I dont want it for the cool factor.
some of the carbines, whether $300 or $900, may be very functional, but they really just aint for me. Id settle for an AR style before Id buy a space gun.

I like the idea behind the JR Carbine. Everything about it makes sense. The takedown model looks to be a breeze to clean. And even having carried an M16 for several years in the Army,, the minor differences mean little to me. I dont care that it be tactically correct. The review I seen, it looks plenty functional.

I just cant find any real world reviews or opinions on it from trusted sources. I think is narrowing down to the JR,, but I'd like a little more information 1st. And your link is a good start/ Penz said he was shooting 100 yards off hand and nailing a 12 inch plate. So Thanks for that.

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CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S1 Carbine 15z_CZScorpionEVO3S1Carbine_R_08505_08506.pngThese look like a dandy. And being a CZ, I bet its a tac driver. For some reason unknown to me, they dont exist for sale yet.

As much as I like CZ stuff. I think its really ignorant that they didnt make this use CZ 75 series mags. They really gouge you on their mags. Shame on CZ for that.
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Oh, yea! The Scorpion EVO would be awesome!! I'd like the rifle eventually.

Sig also has their 9mm carbine as does Vector... Expensive though.

Taurus has their newer 9mm carbine.

Beretta has the Storm in 3 calibers.

Tons of goods out there. Maybe the JR is the ine for you...
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The CZ evo 3 carbine does not look to be available yet, and reported to cost $900 to $1000. Not too bad for a CZ product. cause you can be reasonably sure its a quality piece.
But it irritates me about the magaines.

I think an AR style would be more desireable, especially with all the AR mil spec stuff. I read the whole JR thread, and did finally find some "real world" opinions that dont seem like propoganda BS. I think I will do some calling to LGS's and see if anyone has one I can take a look at. Since the early JR 45 cals in 2012, nobody seems to be complaining,, so thats a plus. And I have not found any complaints on the 9mm version. The lack of information on these is kinda strange really. It almost leads one to believe either theyre not any good, or not selling, or both. But what info I can find say otherwise. The JR might just be the only real option for what I want/like.
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Here is some more goods with the search at the bottom:

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The whole concept behind the JR seems pretty cool. All the furniture and trigger group are AR15 compatible and mil spec,,, so upgrades are quick and easy. It would be the cats meow for me if it took 92 or 75 mags,, but thats not really a big deal. I dont own a glock, but @ $25 per 17 rd mag off Greg Cote, thats not an issue.
It would be nice to talk with someone who has shot it off the bench with a nice scope and see where its at. Any info Ive read on the machine work, its top notch, so I think theres a good chance it could be dialed into some pretty decent accuracy with a little fine tuning. I just dont want a "jammomatic" that throws lead everywhere but at the target..

CDNN regularly has Glock 17 rd mags for $19.99 each.
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The JR will also easily take the smaller G19 mags. I know, I tried them. Plenty of room to still get your hands/fingers on it while it's installed.
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I had a 9mm JR Cabine, Glock mag a while back. It functioned flawlessly (400-500 rounds) unless you tapped the mag in from the bottom. It would jam on 2nd round if you did tap it in, had to make a conscious effort to not do so. Fun, accurate carbine. Using a red dot, I was getting 2-3" groups at 50 yards. Disassembly is relatively simple, just be careful yo not strip ant bolts. I have a Ruger PC9 that I enjoy more. The PC9 has the same accuracy but has its own shortcomings: a lot heavier & little-to-no accessories.
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The "lower" is machined very, very nicely from aluminum. The finish reminds me of the old Colt or S&W revolvers...very well done.
Seems weird an aluminum finish would remind you of old Colts?

I have no experience with the JR, but I don't get the AR thing... It just looks like an AR, sort of. It's not like you can swap uppers to 5.56, it's blowback not DI, the bolt doesn't even lock back on the last round. I guess it can use some AR parts like stocks and maybe triggers? And I guess using Glock mags is the plus over an AR9 with a more conventional lower, though, but is that worth it? There are cheaper carbines that take common pistol mags, though they don't look ARish. But they aren't the size and weight of an AR either.
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Great links Neon Horse. Thank you. That is a load of information that I was looking for.

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