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Old March 16th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #1
 
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New Deer Gun - Savage 7mm-08 or .308?

I am trying to get back into hunting after my multiple year hunting hiatus, because of college. I no longer have anything to hunt with, so have been searching for a deer gun.

I have narrowed my selection down to these 2 calibers, but if there is any input it would be appreciated.

I will be hunting North Carolina White Tail at up to 150 yards. I will be on "mountain" terrain and in a wooded area with some brush. I will also be target shooting with it some.

I have located these at local gun shops. The Savage 11F 7mm-08 is around $547 and the Savage 11F .308 was offered to me at $476. Both shops are pushing their 3-9x40 Nikon line of scopes, but states that Bushnell would be acceptable. Both of the shops will bore sight if scope is purchased there as well.

My budget for the setup is 600-800. I do not want to skimp, but the closer to 600 the better.

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Nothing wrong with either round. The .308 may offer more versatility in that the ammo is pretty common. You may even obtain a quantity of (relatively) reasonably priced 7.62x54 FMJ for defensive purposes.
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Thumbs up 308 All the way.........

boosted, The 308 will handle any deer or elk with the right loads. The 30 caliber bullets are the way to go, there a ton of bullet weights and styles. Have (4) 308 rifles wouldn't sale any of them, they shoot the same hole at 200 yards all the time. I have very good GLASS (scopes) on them. That's the key to precision shooting. A 3-9 will work without a problem in your case. Buy your ammo ( same brand , bullet weight and lot number) when you buy ammo. Buy a 100 rounds at a time. I reload so I build a 100 rounds custom for each rifle. There are differances between my gas guns and my bolt guns. You'll like the Nikon use them on my pistols. Savage makes very good rifle for the money, do some minor prep, you'll a very workable hunting comb. GREGG
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The Nikon scopes that I have used have been very good quality, and much brighter than most Leupolds that I have looked through. Personally I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

As stated above, either caliber will do nicely for deer. Finding .308 ammo will probably be easier. I think Ruger Shooter meant 7.62X51mm NATO ammo, not the 7.62X54R for the Mosin Nagant.

Whatever you choose, enjoy it!
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I ended up getting the Savage 11F in .308 and the Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x50mm.

None of the local shops have the 7.62x51mm NATO ammo, where else could i find it? (they have some 7.62x54R, but that does me no good)

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boosted, Remington 308 150 Gr. core-lokt PLD soft Pt. will work for you. Check with Cabela's for ammo on line if you can't find any. Good choice on the caliber and the Savage are light to carry. Have a NRA 270 WM from them. Good luck on your hunt, GREGG
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Thanks. I am currently researching different loads. I will be heading to a friend’s cabin this Sunday to sight it in. He has also been talking about trying some handloads for it, but we’ll see what happens with that.

I have been researching what loads people like with this rifle and will be trying some of the most popular loads. I will look into the remington load as well.
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I just finished building a 7mm/08 on a Savage 110 action. I used a factory 22" barrel but replaced the factory recoil lug with a dead flat machined one. I glass bedded the action/recoil lug and floated the barrel.

A handload consisting of Varget powder and Nosler 120 grain ballistic tips is giving me 100 yard 5 shot groups of .683". Chronographed velocity of 2957 fps. I'm seating the BT's .012" off the lands.

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I think Ruger Shooter meant 7.62X51mm NATO ammo, not the 7.62X54R for the Mosin Nagant.
Yep, brain fart, 7.62x51 = .308 Winchester.
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I am not having a ton of luck with finding the military round for sale online. It will be a few days before i can explore any surplus stores.

EDIT: Just got back from shooting. My friend and I put about 25 rounds through it sighting it in.

I was shooting some cheap federal rounds and was holding 1-1.5" groups at 100 yards with the forearm on a bag. This is also my first time shooting at ranges over 50 yards and the trigger was set at about 6lbs. I need to drop the weight down on the trigger and that may help a bit with accuracy (keep me from punching the trigger.)

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Looks like I'm late to the the party. Good going with your choice of .308. Mine is a Savage 10FB in a McMillan stock, using a Millet 5 to 15 mildot scope. I've shot some surplus through it and have not been particularly impressed. Shoots 3 inch groups at 200 yards with British Radway, 2 inch with Lithuanian and South African. Newer Radway seems to be what's available right now. All of these are definitely "minute of deer" and are suitable for practice.

Handloads are a completely different matter. Using 168 grain Sierra Match Kings with Varget or Benchmark powders, the gun is giving 5 shot groups that will hide under a quarter. Neither is a max load, 2816 fps with Varget, 2684 fps with Benchmark. I'm still working up loads and will try to boost velocities a bit. I'm looking for something that will still be supersonic at 1000 yards; the Varget load is close. I'd like to be able to shoot well enough to ring a 10 inch gong at that distance 80% of the time. Think I'm going to need a better scope.
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Thanks. I picked up a few boxes of Hornady 168gr A-Max rounds to see how well they will shoot. I may start loading soon, as all I will need, for a while, is primers, powder, and bullets. A close friend has the dies, press, etc avalible to load and offered to teach me and let me use it, till i can get one of my own.

EDIT: I was able to go shooting today and the groupings seem to be closing up. It started around 1.5" at 100 yards and then down to 1". My last 3 shot grouping i had 2 setting on the X almost on top of each other.

Any suggestions on a bipod?

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Thanks. I picked up a few boxes of Hornady 168gr A-Max rounds to see how well they will shoot. I may start loading soon, as all I will need, for a while, is primers, powder, and bullets. A close friend has the dies, press, etc avalible to load and offered to teach me and let me use it, till i can get one of my own.

EDIT: I was able to go shooting today and the groupings seem to be closing up. It started around 1.5" at 100 yards and then down to 1". My last 3 shot grouping i had 2 setting on the X almost on top of each other.

Any suggestions on a bipod?
I just pulled the trigger on a bipod myself. I did a lot of reading and although a cheaper one probably would've gotten the job done I was much more comfortable going with the "sure thing." I ended up buying a Harris Pivoting, 13.5"-27". I got it from Cabelas because I know if I have any problems with it they'll take it back without question. I'll report back once I get it and mount it up. I have also read that the Shooter's Ridge bi-pods are decent for the money.
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The .308 is just simply hard to beat for the average shooter nowdays and recoil is lessoned enough to make it enjoyable at the range too.
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