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Old November 7th, 2014, 07:28 AM   #31
 
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Hipoint actually has a .45 for $199!
Where are these things made?
Ohio.

They are cheap because they use a lower grade metal for the frame and some other components. Its safe, however, because its thicker to compensate. Hence the ugly appearance. Despite being cheap actual owners have reported good quality, and that is backed up by reviews and tests.

I had the 45 pistol for a time and had no issues with it. I got rid of it after I got an SR1911 and realized I wasn't shooting the HiPoint anymore.



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Old November 7th, 2014, 10:03 AM   #32
 
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I had thought about getting a 45 carbine but I got a Marlin 357 lever instead to fill that role
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Does the current design still use the firing pin as an ejector? I had an earlier one and that's how it worked. Thus, when taking a live round out of the chamber, the live round gets knocked off of the extractor/bolt face by the firing pin slamming against the live primer of the cartridge you are unloading.

That kind of freaked me out (out of battery ignition anyone?) and I decided to sell it. It may be just a theoretical problem that actually isn't a problem, but I didn't like it.

The other problem I had it with it was the same thing in a way - I could see that the firing pin, doing double duty as an ejector, was beginning to bend and an internet search showed that this was a common problem - eventually it bends too much and fatigues and breaks.

So if you want yours to be absolutely reliable, get some replacement firing pins and know how to change those out. They are very long and very thin and get slammed every time the gun extracts.
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bought one in .40 years ago and could not find a round it would eat reliably. got disgusted and put it in the safe. remembered I had the damn thing last year, took it apart and polished the snot out of the feed ramp and the chamber. guess what! shoots reliably with anything now. not terribly accurate, I do not see it winning any prizes, but lots of fun.
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I like my 9mm.

Here is a pic of mine if I can figure out how to post it. I am pretty impressed with mine. So far it has shot everything I put in it. I am on a fixed retirement income so money is tighter than it used to be. Years ago I wouldn't have even considered Hi-Point, but I am really glad I got this one. Great little CQB house gun. I didn't buy it to be a precision target gun, but it does really good at CQB distances. Here is how I have dressed mine.
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Here is a pic of mine if I can figure out how to post it. I am pretty impressed with mine. So far it has shot everything I put in it. I am on a fixed retirement income so money is tighter than it used to be. Years ago I wouldn't have even considered Hi-Point, but I am really glad I got this one. Great little CQB house gun. I didn't buy it to be a precision target gun, but it does really good at CQB distances. Here is how I have dressed mine.
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Ive been kinda looking at the 9mm also for a range fungun. The price is very nice. . Ive honestly been waiting to see if CZ would build one on the 512 or 805 frame that accepts 75 mags. .

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I have two 9mm Hi Point carbines. I have read so much BS in this thread. First the Hi Point has a huge claw type extractor, it does not use the firing pin as an extractor. I have 995TS I bought close to a year ago. It has jammed one time in well over 2,000 rounds. I have had an older Classic 995 for over 10 years. I am sure it has jammed once or twice but I sure cannot recall it jamming. My Hi Point carbines are far more reliable that my Glock G19 or Colt LE6920. The Hi Point has eaten the cheapest ammo that everyone complains about without a hitch. Everyone I know that owns a Hi Point has gotten similar performance from their carbine.

The only complaint I have about Hi Point carbines is to get them shooting really well you need to have the muzzle crowned. I crowned the muzzle on my Classic Carbine with a brass lap and valve grinding compound. My gunsmith crowned the muzzle on my 995TS is just a few minutes with a professional 79 degree crown cutter similar to what Ruger uses on their big bore revolvers.

You can get a magazine carrier for the TS models. That gives you three 10 shot magazines on board. If Hi Point made a high capacity magazine I would buy one for self defense. But for range duty the three 10 shot magazines eat ammo faster than I care to buy it. For two people to golf ball plinking you need at least two boxes of shells. If the weather is nice and we go plinking several times over the course of a weekend pretty soon it gets expensive. I have bought a thousand rounds of ammo. We started shooting golf balls on Friday evening by Sunday we were wondering where all the ammo went. We didn't shoot the whole case of ammo but we shot enough that it was time to start looking for another case of 9mm.

If you are interested in a Hi Point Carbine the Sportsmans Guide has very good prices every day on Hi Point Carbines.

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High point carbine uses firing pin as an EJECTOR. Cycle a live round and look closely to see what knocks the brass out of the ejection port when you unload it. It is the firing pin slamming against the primer. Ok if it just fired and is just spent brass. Kinda concerning if you are unloading a live round. Like i said not quite something I was willing to live with.
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You are correct about the carbine using the firing pin as an ejector. However, when the extractor pulls the round out of the cylinder it turns the cartridge towards the ejection port so the firing pin does not hit the primer unless the cartridge is in the cylinder. There is a groove in the bolt on the left side for a guide rail. I thought the ejector was on the guide rail but the bolt is to large for an ejector to function on the rail that guides the bolt.

The early carbines and pistols had a problem with the magazine rubbing the slide which caused the pistol/carbine to malfunction. I have a bunch of older Hi Points hanging around that I bought for $25 to $50. To fix this issue just file the magazine down until it quits rubbing the bottom of the slide. I actually filed the magazine down before paying for several of these guns. Took the gun to my range and emptied several magazines. The guy still wanted to sell the gun. Check the magazine for sharp edges once the gun is functioning properly. File the sharp edges down or you will be bleeding every time you load the gun.

The magazine issue was corrected in all pistols and carbines with the second generation magazine. You can run the second generation magazine in the old Hi Points but you will damage your new Hi Point with the old magazines.

kman I appreciate you pointing out that the firing pin is used as an ejector. I will keep an eye on my firing pins to make sure they are in good order. As you can tell I have been shooting a lot of Hi Points without any issue. When I raced horses at Thistle downs I would shoot in Hi Point only matches. The Hi Point only matches were a lot of fun and I met a lot of cool, down to earth people there. With a little tweaking Hi Points are very accurate. It keeps you humble when you get your *** handed to you by a 16 year old girl.

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+1 they are the AK47 of pistol caliber carbines.

I want one in 9mm, to use as a truck/car gun......

Since I have guns in 9mm, .40 and .45 I also may get a .45 for an "around the property" gun. They're cheap enough to have a few of them and I have heard Hi-Points CS is awesome, if the gun breaks they just take the old one, destroy it and send you a new one.
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Great link Thanks a weird type of banana mag Great price! Thanks for the link. I am planning on a 9mm Hi Point soon
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Pro mag warning!!!!

FYI: There is a WARNING label with the Hi Point Carbine about Pro Mag! Says it will VOID Warranty if used,!@!! Not sure where I read that!

IMO I think the gun is so ugly it is way cool I like the comparison to Planet of the Apes movie lol. I am Planning on the 9mm not sure what version, basically Ill see what they have in stock, The price is real nice for a fun gun and reviews on it are good!
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