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Old July 27th, 2013, 03:24 PM   #1
 
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Question 9mm Berry's Plated Bullets Data

I managed to find a box of Berry's 9mm plated 115gr RN bullets at cabelas today. Does anyone have any loading data for these using Hodgdon HS-6 or Longshot powder with Winchester primers ?

All I'm using is a $25 Lee Classic Loader, $25 Lee safety powder scale, $10 digital caliper and $5 bottle of case lube.

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You can use the lead bullet data of the same configuration as your plated bullet. Plated bullets are simply soft lead bullets with a thin copper wash over them.
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You can use the lead bullet data of the same configuration as your plated bullet. Plated bullets are simply soft lead bullets with a thin copper wash over them.
Yeah, I've heard that before and that you can also use the starting load for a jacketed bullet or a little less, but I was hoping someone here has already tried these bullets with the powder I have and they might have some insight to a load that works good for them.

The hodgdon website says to start LRN 115gr at 5 grains for longshot powder or 6.4 grains for HS-6 powder, but they list a OAL at 1.100. I was thinking about loading them to about 1.130 OAL at those starting loads and then work my way up .1 grains at a time until my slide locks back then go about .1 or .2 grains above that. The Lee classic loader I'm using doesn't do any type of crimp at all. Does that matter for this load ? Do you think I should go less than 1.130 OAL ? I loaded a dummy round and it works fine in the magazine, plunks into the barrel and turns without leaving any rifling marks on the bullet and it falls right out of the barrel nicely too.

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I load that same Berry's bullet & I am using Hodgdon's powders & l have had very good results with their load data. I use HP-38(4.7 gr.)& load it to 1.135" & TiteGroup(4.4gr) & use 1.1" OAL. I am using various range brass & S&B SP primers.Good luck!
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I load that same Berry's bullet & I am using Hodgdon's powders & l have had very good results with their load data. I use HP-38(4.7 gr.)& load it to 1.135" & TiteGroup(4.4gr) & use 1.1" OAL. I am using various range brass & S&B SP primers.Good luck!
That's good to hear, but my Lee modern reloading book says 4.3 grains is the max for titegroup powder and the minimum OAL is 1.1" which is 30k pressure and 1151 velocity. The ones you are loading must be a hot load. With a max load of longshot powder the pressure is only 27k, but the velocity is a little faster at 1166.
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That's good to hear, but my Lee modern reloading book says 4.3 grains is the max for titegroup powder and the minimum OAL is 1.1" which is 30k pressure and 1151 velocity. The ones you are loading must be a hot load. With a max load of longshot powder the pressure is only 27k, but the velocity is a little faster at 1166.
No they are not a hot load, not at all. Let me explain. That was my point of referencing Hodgdon data for Hodgdon powder.
Hodgdon's 2013 annual reloading manual($8.99) has several excellent articles, one being a great article on 9mm reloading, with a focus on plated bullets because they have become so popular. Berry's list their regular plated bullets at a max velocity of 1250 FPS, & their thick-plated bullets at 1500 FPS. In the 9mm article he used 3 different powders(Hodgdon) & tested 3 weights of Berrys plated(115gr. RN-124gr. HP & 147gr. RN) In the 115gr test he loaded TiteGroup at( all used Starline brass & CCI 500 SP primers)
GRS Bullet OAL(in.) Vel.(FPS)
4.4--- 115 gr.--- 1.10--- 1214
4.6--- 115 gr. --- 1.10--- 1239
4.8--- 115 gr. --- 1.10 --- 1269

As you can see, my somewhat duplicated load is well within Berry's specs for the bullet & performed great & was mild recoil wise, but cycled the Sig SP2022 well. I have 3 9mm's(LC9, SR9c & SP2022) If my loads will cycle the Sig, it will work in all. He also tested Longshot, but preferred TiteGroup. He used 5, 5.5 & 6 GR. of Longshot & all stayed under 1250fps. Keep in mind also his test gun had a 5.25" barrel. Check Hodgdon's data center online & you will get your Longshot data. By the way, Hodgdon did there testing at 1.1." OAL, I would stick with that tested OAL. Good luck with your reloading.

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