old .44 carbineThis is a discussion on old .44 carbine within the Reloading forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Can't believe I got one! My hands are still shaking like a 60 year old with buck fever.
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September 28th, 2012, 01:35 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Milledgeville, GA
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Can't believe I got one! My hands are still shaking like a 60 year old with buck fever.
Any reccomendations/experience for a starting load for this little carbine using the hornady lever revolution 225 grain bullets? Just seems to me they ought to shoot very well, if the soft nose will feed.
Thanks
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September 28th, 2012, 01:55 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Denver, Colorado Territory
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I assume you are referring to the old Deerslayer semi-auto? Good find, I haven't even seen one for quite some time. There was a problem with some of them with the frame or operating rod cracking (can't remember which) so check it carefully.
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September 28th, 2012, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Tn, USA.
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Had one and it liked loads about like factory loadings. Cut back on the powder and it jammed bad. Handy little rifle.
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September 28th, 2012, 02:42 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Northern California.
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I use H110 in mine I found it to burn cleaner that imr4227 and made the switch because I was woried about fouling up the gas port. I use 23gr H110 with 240gr xtp coL.1.610 wich was right at the crimp grove. The problem they have was the stock cracking if it became loose. If yours is loose you remove the but plate and tighten the bolt, I believe it is a flathead but I dont remember for sure, you wil need a long screwdriver to reach the bolt because it is towrd the end of the stock. I have not tried hornadys lever revolution in mine so I cant help you with any load data ive used but this should help, hornady 44mag ftx load data
http:/www.hornady.com/assets/files/...agFTXRifle.com
Also take a look at this I found it interesting
http//hunting.about.com/od/guns/ig/Ruger-44-carbine-instructions
Good luck and hpy shooting that is a fantastic little rifle. -Bod
Last edited by Bodthoutica; September 28th, 2012 at 09:01 PM.
Reason: I incorectly spelled the first web page I adressed
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September 29th, 2012, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by mudcreek Any reccomendations/experience for a starting load for this little carbine using the hornady lever revolution 225 grain bullets? Just seems to me they ought to shoot very well, if the soft nose will feed. | The good news, that little carbine was from the era of "REAL" .44 Mag loads.
Any load you see from a current manual will be fine. It will likely shoot best with loads at or near current max.
Lever revolution is new stuff, and will not blow your legacy Ruger up.
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September 29th, 2012, 05:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Munds Park, AZ
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Originally Posted by mudcreek Can't believe I got one! My hands are still shaking like a 60 year old with buck fever.
Any reccomendations/experience for a starting load for this little carbine using the hornady lever revolution 225 grain bullets? Just seems to me they ought to shoot very well, if the soft nose will feed.
Thanks  | I have one and it likes near max loads, I use H-110 and 240 grain JSP & JHP bullets. Lighter loads I tried did not cycle.
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September 30th, 2012, 12:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Northern California.
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Mudcreek, sorry for my first post. I didint have the adress right. If you still need the data this should be the right one.
Here is the ftx data you requested, my first post had incorect page adress http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/...agFTXrifle.pdf |
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September 30th, 2012, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Southern Indiana
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Wife recently used a first year production Model 44 carbine for her Hog and Whitetail Doe. We have a TWO digit serial number on her gun, but sure shoots as good as any newer version. I am not fond of the 'shotgun ammo loading process' on this gun. I wish it had the removeable mag that is used in todays bolt action version.. But on the other hand, here are the results...She used MagTech 240 gr sjsp ammo at a distance of about 50 yards for each animal.
Here's her gun with her deer |
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October 1st, 2012, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by Mayor Al I am not fond of the 'shotgun ammo loading process' on this gun. | I like my77/357-44, but the magazines are not a strong feature.
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October 1st, 2012, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Southern Indiana
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T Man,
Do you pack spare mag(s) for your 77?
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October 2nd, 2012, 07:22 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by Mayor Al T Man,
Do you pack spare mag(s) for your 77? | I'm looking for belt type carriers for the 77/357-44 magazines. I use Speed Loader carriers for my BX10's, and they work great for that, but I haven't seen a source for the larger magazines.
To answer your question more clearly, I have a couple Uncle Mikes Folding Carriers for handgun rounds, for hunting. I use separate carriers for .357 & .44 so the loops stay tight enough to hold .357's securely. I did buy 3 extra magazines for both rifles though, I figure 4 magazines should last a lifetime, as they do hold up well, and are easy to clean.
I'm thinking that a 10 shot staggered box magazine would be a good option though, I'd buy a few of those if they magically appeared.
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October 10th, 2012, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Milledgeville, GA
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I am loading IMR 4227, 23 gr behind a 240 gr XTP. I am using large pistol primers, CCI.......getting a lot of unburned powder, which ain't good in the little 44. carbine. Will a hotter primer, say a large magnum pistol primer help fire up the powder? I plan to get H110 come payday, but I'm still curious about the 4227.
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October 11th, 2012, 04:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: VT
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Make sure you crimp the heck out of them...
If that does not work, back off the load a bit and try a magnum primer before you work back up...
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October 11th, 2012, 05:43 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Missouri
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Brother in law likes em so much he has 3. Can't get him to part with one.
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October 11th, 2012, 08:48 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Idaho
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Might try Winchester 296, a magnum pistol primer and Remington 240 gr. JHP's was what I used in my mine.
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