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Old March 24th, 2012, 04:40 PM   #1
 
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44 mag loads for silhouette shooting

I am thinking about getting into silhouette shooting and need opinions on a load. I currently use a plinking load of 7.0 gr Universal with a 240 gr #13 cowboy rnfp bullet from Missouri. Is this load good enough or do I need more punch? Gun is a SBH cut to 5.5". thanks



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Old March 24th, 2012, 05:16 PM   #2
 
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What you need is the following:
240 gr Sierra jacketed hp with a stiff load of either WW296 or H110. You are trying to knock down 50# rams @ 200 meters.
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Good grief! Yeah , I can see that, I suppose just "ringing" his bell won't be enough. thanks
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Old March 25th, 2012, 11:48 AM   #4
 
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What you need is the following:
240 gr Sierra jacketed hp with a stiff load of either WW296 or H110. You are trying to knock down 50# rams @ 200 meters.
Why hollow point?

I would have though a good, lead (hard enough and gas-checked to avoid leading) bullet as heavy as you can find (300 grains perhaps) would be better. 1) cast lead is cheaper than jacketed and 2) momentum is greater with a heavier bullet, especially at long range.

Sure, the bullet drop will be greater, but I believe heavier bullets retain velocity better than lighter ones.

I am of the opinion that momentum is more important than energy when it comes to knocking things over. Heavier bullets carry more momentum, generally.

I know very little about silhouette shooting, so more experienced shooters can correct me. I won't mind being educated. But please explain why a hollow point would be superior to a soft point, full metal jacket or cast lead.

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I would use a kieth style cast myself (RCBS 250 KT) or a Lyman 240 grain cast gas check (429644? may be wrong number, Thompson style). But would not hesitate to use a 240 grain jacketed if that's what shot good, especially if I didn't cast. You want to use top end loads to reach out there for sure. I haven't shot silhouettes but will one of these days. I plan to use a the Kieth with 20 grains of 2400.

On silhouettes with a 44 mag I would guess a hollow point would not be superior over the others unless it was just more accurate, nor the others superior to the hollow point. A harder bullet might have an advantage than a soft one though. The soft one might splatter and not have the momentum to knock the target down.

You may want to go to a match and talk to guys who shoot the same gun you do and find out what works. Also do some digging on the internet.
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When I used to shoot sihouette I used a 300 grain cast bullet in 45 colt over 10.3 grains of unique. this was in a ruger blackhawk. I would use a vbullet heavier than 240 grain to achieve more retained energy. The drop will be greater but unlik hunting you are able to zero in at a known distance.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #7
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180gn JHP behind 30gns of H110. Whis will net you 1700 to 1800 fps depending on barrel length and will have a much flatter trajectory than a 300gn pill.
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My local range has not as of yet published a schedule for silhouette shoots and there are no warm bodies to discuss anything with. Soooo, any information I get will be from ya'll. thanks
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HOrnady once made a 265 grain JSP for the .444 Marlin, but I don't know if they still do. If so, you might find this a good compromise between bullet drop vs. retained momentum. Since it was designed to be launched at and expand at velocities in the 2000 f/s range, it may be heavily enough constructed to act like a solid on 200 yd rams when it strikes with lower velocities.
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Well, I haven't gone there and done that, but my 5.5" RedHawk is getting a touch over 1300fps with a 310gr cast.

One thing, if using bullets in that wt. range in the BH, you might want to get an after market base pin and or heavier spring on the spring loaded retaining pin that holds the base pin in place.

On a BlackHawk Hunter, the recoil with the over 300gr bullets caused damage to the base pin and the retaining cross pin.

By the way, the base pin is the pin the cyilinder spins on.

The RedHawk just takes a lick'in and keeps on tick'in!

Keep em coming!

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Old March 26th, 2012, 04:56 PM   #11
 
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Missouri Bullet Co. makes some Truncated Cone Flat Point hardcast bullets in 240 and 300 grains. The 300 gr bullets are marked as "for silhouette".

Also, I recommend going over to steelchickens.com and asking some questions there. I'm not a pistol silhouette shooter. I used to shoot smallbore rifle silhouette. There are some very knowledgeable people at steelchickens.

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Yes, I found steelchickens.com yesterday, been reading but not posting. thanks
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180 grain bullet BEHIND 30 grains of H110?

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180gn JHP behind 30gns of H110. Whis will net you 1700 to 1800 fps depending on barrel length and will have a much flatter trajectory than a 300gn pill.
That's a smokin' load.

But I find my performance suffers if I put the bullet behind the powder. I get better ignition with the powder between the bullet and the primer.

I apologize. I couldn't resist.

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44 mag loads for silhouette shooting

I have found the load below to be easy to shoot quite effective in my Redhawk.

Sierra j.h.p. 180 2400 26.0 ww.l.p. Rem. 1665 fps.C* Metallic sil

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I have been reading where some shooters have 2 different loads, 1 for close range and a 2nd hotter load for the longer distances. The hotter load just beats up the 50yd targets as well as the shooter and the gun.
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