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Old December 12th, 2011, 02:08 AM   #1
 
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reloading 416 ruger

Hi all
I am after some advice on reloading the 416 ruger. Do i need to crimp these and if so what type of crimp die do you recommend? I have searched Sinclairs catalog and can not find any crimp dies for the 416 ruger. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old December 12th, 2011, 02:37 AM   #2
 
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Greetings Shanghi,


I shoot the 416 RCM in a #1, and it does not need a crimp in a single shot. However, for the bolt action, I would set the bullet with the proper length with the die backed off about a full turn. At that point, back off the seating stem about four turns, so it can not contact the bullet.

Slowly, turn the whole die about a quarter turn at a time, till you can feel the crimping. Check your crimp, and if it is not enough turn the die a bit more. Be careful and slow. It is possible to crimp too much and bulge the case where it will not feed into the action. Chamber a few rounds into the gun to be sure they will feed. The bolt action has a lot more camming power than the number one.

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Old December 12th, 2011, 02:43 AM   #3
 
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I was recently schooled that most rifle loads don't need a crimp with the one exception of lever action loads since they bounce on one another under recoil and spring pressure. The neck tension when set right should be all you need for most any rifle load. However, I am still stubborn and will keep setting a slight crimp using Lee's rifle FCD for what I'm loading. But I also shoot a lot of cast bullet loads and I have to open the case mouth just a bit so the brass doesn't shave lead off the bullet. So I have to then close that opening with a crimp die. If you load boat tail jacketed bullets then those will feed in very easy. Flat base jacketed bullets will still go in, but you may need to ease them in and hold them just right so you don't crumple a case. I have used my Lee universal expander for some of these as well. I don't open the case mouth nearly as much as I do for lead bullets though. But the bottom line is that if you load with jacketed and you set your neck tension right the first time, then no you don't need a crimp die.
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Thanks moondog911
I have never used that method I have always been able to find a crimp die to match my callabor, but i will certinally give it a go.....SLOWLY.....
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