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Old September 22nd, 2011, 01:14 AM   #1
 
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.44 special "Ruger Only Loads"

Where can I find some higher pressure loads for the .44spl? I've heard .44spl can be loadeda little hotter like .45 colt. Or more appropriately call Elmer Keith load equivalents.

Where can I find this data?



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Old September 22nd, 2011, 03:29 AM   #2
 
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Here's a good read on the 44 Special.
http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt44spec.htm
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 06:54 AM   #3
 
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I ended up buying a 2007 (I think) back-issue of Handloading magazine in which Brian Pearce did a great article on reloading for the New Model FlatTop in 44 Special.

Sorry I don't have a link --- I know Hammerdown77 (and probably others) can help. This article is a MUST READ if you want to pursue warm 44 Special loads in the FlatTop.

I load Alliant Power Pistol for 200 and 240 grain JHPs and H2400 (old stock) for 255 grain Hardcasts using Pearce's loads -- very accurate and brings the 44 Special up to a level that makes it more useful (at least to me).
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You need the August 2005 issue of Handloader magazine. (no. 236). That one has some very good data for 3 different pressure levels in the 44 special.

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Sorry but I don't get "Ruger Only" loads for 44 Special........if you want a 44 mag, get a 44 mag. I don't own a 44 Spl as I believe the 44 mag does everything I want....but if I did have a 44 Spl, it would be just that......a 44 Spl. A great round for plinking and would be good for MOST game in North America. Anything hotter would go to my 44 mags.......

But that is just my opinion......
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Sorry but I don't get "Ruger Only" loads for 44 Special........if you want a 44 mag, get a 44 mag. I don't own a 44 Spl as I believe the 44 mag does everything I want....but if I did have a 44 Spl, it would be just that......a 44 Spl. A great round for plinking and would be good for MOST game in North America. Anything hotter would go to my 44 mags.......

But that is just my opinion......
Kinda my thoughts, too. I guess if your gun is a *special* .44, then you might like some warmer loads in the Spl caliber (= unique model of Ruger .44 Spl not available in .44 Mag?).

In my .44 Mag Redhawk, if I want some plinking loads, I use W231 with 240 gr lead SWC bullets in Magnum cases. Don't even fool with Special cases.
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There is no such thing as Ruger Only Loads for the .44Spec. That said, you can load the .44Spec a bit hotter than factory... From ~700fps to ~1200fps (depending on barrel lengths of course)... For example, the Skeeter load of 7.5g of Unique under a 240g bullet will do everything I need done in the ~1000fps range. And there is the Keith load 17g of 2400 under ~240g bullet which is as hot as you want to go in this cartridge.

The nice thing about .44Spec is the guns can be a bit smaller and handier over the SBH, RH, and SRH. I owned a SRH but found I never shot it as it just wasn't 'handy' to pack. Very rare I shot magnum loads with it too... So sold it. I have a SBH and the 50th flattop and rarely get them out.... The .44Mag is 'useless' in my mind for what I do. Just more bulk, weight, noise, and kick for nothing. If I hunted in Africa, then .... then I'd pick up a BH in .45 Colt and kick in some Linebaugh loads .

I do agree if you feel the need to shoot magnum loads ... buy a magnum and have at it. But for me, the smaller .44Spec will work just fine.

Common loads at bottom of this article
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There is no such thing as Ruger Only Loads for the .44Spec. That said, you can load the .44Spec a bit hotter than factory... From ~700fps to ~1200fps (depending on barrel lengths of course)... For example, the Skeeter load of 7.5g of Unique under a 240g bullet will do everything I need done in the ~1000fps range. And there is the Keith load 17g of 2400 under ~240g bullet which is as hot as you want to go in this cartridge.

The nice thing about .44Spec is the guns can be a bit smaller and handier over the SBH, RH, and SRH. I owned a SRH but found I never shot it as it just wasn't 'handy' to pack. Very rare I shot magnum loads with it too... So sold it. I have a SBH and the 50th flattop and rarely get them out.... The .44Mag is 'useless' in my mind for what I do. Just more bulk, weight, noise, and kick for nothing. If I hunted in Africa, then .... then I'd pick up a BH in .45 Colt and kick in some Linebaugh loads .

I do agree if you feel the need to shoot magnum loads ... buy a magnum and have at it. But for me, the smaller .44Spec will work just fine.

Common loads at bottom of this article

I really didn't know what else to call the "hotter" loads for .44 spl. I was mainly asking for the hotter data like the Skeeter and Elmer loads. I can't find it published.
I haven't pushed my FT special to magnum loads. I have a .44 magnum SRH for those.
Just looking for something a little warmer than standard special data.
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I really didn't know what else to call the "hotter" loads for .44 spl. I was mainly asking for the hotter data like the Skeeter and Elmer loads. I can't find it published.
I haven't pushed my FT special to magnum loads. I have a .44 magnum SRH for those.
Just looking for something a little warmer than standard special data.
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If you want something "hotter" than published loads, just up the powder charge from the maximum listed charge. Simple, but not smart...
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Just looking for something a little warmer than standard special data.
The "Keith" load boarders on magnun power. Even Elmer quit using it when he got ahold of guns chambered for 44 magnum. IMHO the "Skeeter" load 7.5gr of Unique is THE Special load. For one thing if I do my job it'll stack bullet holes on top of one another.
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Like was said before you need the August -September issue of handloader its available as a back issue
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Interesting that he says 'These loads are safe in my revolvers.' at the bottom of the article. How the heck does he know? Because they haven't blown up?

I have shot all of those loads without issues but they do exceed published load recommendations. The Skeeter load is plenty for me.

I love my Lipsey Bisley and would be heartbroken if I damaged it. I have a SBH Hunter in 44mag for when I want to make big booms
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I really don't believe you're going to damage your FT Bisley with the Skeeter load. I've fired it in my 696 with the really thin section at the forcing cone and all is well. It is the only load I use in my .44 Specials and I have two of the Lipsey's FTs. I use 9 gr. of Unique under the 280 gr. Keith (RCBS) in my .45 Colt Lipsey's FT and no problems there either.
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'These loads are safe in my revolvers.' ... Because they haven't blown up?
He is just covering his tail . I should say the same thing for mine.... Remember even the Skeeter load is not a 'published' load for .44 Special. The Skeeter load works in my guns (except for my .44Spec Bulldog) and I know what I am shooting is perfectly safe (I did the research)... BUT, I certainly don't know anything about your revolvers (might be a Bulldog or a S&W or Tauras, or....) so take your chances .
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Depends on the brass you have, I guess. Since I have plenty of Special brass, I use Special cases for a ".44 Special +P" load that I came up with. Shoots great out of the 629.
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