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Old August 18th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #1
 
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Reloading problems

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I have been having problems with getting my dies to work with me. I have been trying to load .308 winchester and .223 with my new LNL Hornady AP press and have followed all the directions explicitly. I keep having the reoccuring problem with my decapping/ resizer dies on both calibers. My trouble started the other night when after atleast 20 cases the .223 case got stuck in my Hornady new dimension decapper/ resizing die. Well using my stuck case remover ended up destroying the pin and resizer in the die. So I switched to a reserve .223 RCBS set I have and tonight my decapping pin came out bent and resizer was deformed after 2 cases. Before this happened I had to keep adjusting the decapping pin outward because the primer wasn't pressing out and jamming up the press. Then I got it set just enough to push out the primer. The second case is when I ran into the deformed decapping pin and resizer on the upward stroke or when the resizer is sizing the case neck. I have been using the one shot hornady lubricant and set the decapping pin 3/16" out as directed, and seating the die base down to the face of the shellplate as directed. What am I missing? Had the pretty much same problem a while back with my .308 RCBS die. Any help you guys can give please?



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Old August 18th, 2011, 10:38 PM   #2
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Sounds like you are not lubing your cases.
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Old August 19th, 2011, 01:29 AM   #3
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If cases are sticking your not using enough lube.
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What make brass are you using?Like the others said, NOT ENOUGH LUBE! They should slide in and out fairly easy. As far as you having trouble with your decapping pin, are the primers crimped? Need more information. I use One Shot and it works great.
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Using federal cases, once fired recently. They were 55gr. FMJ previously when new. I have been lubing the cases heavily or what I thought was, even tried lubing the inside of the die, and inside the case with one shot. I also tried using powder graphite on a Q tip to lube a couple case necks, and still having problems. I'm not sure about the primers, they are boxer primed, but not sure about the crimp. Like I said I am a novice in reloading rifle and pistol shells, most experience I have with reloading is shotgun which I have done for years with out issues. Seems like these are getting the best of me!
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Crimped primers can bend the decapping pin. I used a Lee decapper on crimped primers. It only cost about 5 bucks. They make them for 223's and 45 Apc's. Lube the cases good but not the necks because that will put dents on the shoulders. Also make sure the pin is centered and tight. If it's loose it could miss the flash hole and bend it.
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The cases should be cleaned before resizing. Use enough lube, but keep it off the shoulder if possible. It may be beneficial to use a case brush to brush the inside of the neck and apply a small amount of lube to the inside of the case neck as well. If your primers are crimped, your decapping rod should have the strength to pop them out anyway. If not, then use a separate decapping die. I reload 30-06 Greek surplus with crimped primer pockets without issues.
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Soon as I get my replacement parts I am going to give this advice a try. I was thinking about ordering the frankfort aresnal case neck lube brushes and the 4 ox of ground mica and trying that on the case necks. Me and my friend were talking about having a seperate decapper and resizing die setup, with the five stations on the LNL AP it would be simple to setup. So I need to clean them in the tumbler before removing the primers? I was doing it afterwards. Thanks all for the helpful information.
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You can decap before tumbling, but if you do that, you want a dedicated decapping die, not a sizeing/decapping combo die.
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I load on two hornady lnl's as well as RCBS and Lee presses. So I am not against Hornady. I am against Hornady one shot,worthless used in loading centerfire rifle ammo in my experience. Get a lube pad and some RCBS or equal lube,you will not stick any more cases.
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You could be using too much lube also It's a rare senero but it can happen also if your dies are lubed as you stated you did that too may becuse you're using too much lube I use One Shot spray the cases and let them set for about five (5) minunites then run them through also if you using carbide dies there is no need to lube but I do it anyway
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I load on two hornady lnl's as well as RCBS and Lee presses. So I am not against Hornady. I am against Hornady one shot,worthless used in loading centerfire rifle ammo in my experience. Get a lube pad and some RCBS or equal lube,you will not stick any more cases.
To each their own, but Hornady One Shot is all I use anymore.
I tumble before I decap/resize and dump 150-200 in a plastic tub (79 cents at Rite-Aid).
Shake and spray for about 5 sec and they all run through 'like butter'.
You don't have to, but since I like really shiny brass I run it through the tumbler again for about 30 min before loading.
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Cool, plan on working on it Tuesday night and trying some of these suggestions. I am glad I have you guys to ask these answers too. You know I stayed away from loading for years even though I have a large collection of guns except for shotgun reloading which is pretty simple. But when I bought my 1919A4 I knew I had to start reloading and since I own 6 or 7 .223 rifles it was only logical to do them as well. Soon as I get the bottle neck case loading figured out, I am also gonna transition into pistol ammo as well with carbide dies. But seriously thanks guys for looking out for me, I am sure I will have more questions for you in the future!
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Tried your advice guys the other nite and loaded about 75 rounds of .223 ammo with the LNL press. The one shot worked great this time, after I tumbled the cases for a couple hours, I layed them out and sprayed them. I used a nylon 22 caliber brush to clean the necks with a little one shot and the reloading went very easily. I ran into few hiccups, like I noticed that the PMC ammo I had must have had crimped primers cause the decapper didn't want to fully push the primer out, which it did the Federal and Winchester, so I manually extracted them and kept goin. I also had a few PMC's that felt extremely stiff when trying to feed them into the die , so I backed them out and discarded them. The others never had that problem. It was only 2 or three cases. It seemed the PMC brass wanted to give me problems, which the Federal and Winchester didn't. Any of you guys had any problems with these types of cases during reloading? I also noticed, that I had one case that had a very small dent in the side wall and It didn't want to feed in the die either. Had a friend preping the cases and missed the dent till I found it after the first stroke of the press and it didn't want to feed. If you have these you discard them correct? Thats what I did, and I have cases from my Mini 14T, that has a habit of dinging the case when ejecting the shell do I need to disgard them as well? I am using the Hornady full length sizing die and didn't know if it was capable of smoothing it out during sizing? One last question I have is my MSAR STG-556 has a habit of denting the necks when ejecting. Do I need to just not reload that brass or will it be ok? Thanks All!
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I don't worry about the dings or small dents. Heavily dented cases get tossed. When you fire the round, minor dents will smooth right out. Just stay off Max loads.
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