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Old November 27th, 2010, 05:43 PM   #1
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Recommended 158gr SWC-HP Lead bullets for 357/38 3-4" barrel.

Looking for some recommended 158gr lead bullets for my GP100 and SP101 357 magnums. These would be used for best short range accuracy as well as penetration, and would like to keep leading to a minimum. Any opinions on the Hornaday 10408 or 10428 Hollow point? I recently received 1,500 Starline brass cases and will be loading jacketed hollow points and would like to load some lower velocity (900 fps) lead bullets as well. Winter is here!. Thanks.



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Old November 27th, 2010, 08:35 PM   #2
 
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I've tried Hornady lead bullets and had serious leading problems with several different powders and charges. This was both in .38 Special and .45ACP

I use either Midstates cast or Missouri Bullet 158gr LSWC and 4 grains of 231 in my .38's and Oregon Trail 158's and 5.5 grains Unique for the .357's. Nice shooting loads and very little leading.
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I've used this bullet http://www.rimrockbullets.net/catalo...products_id=74 in both 38 Spl and 357 Mag revolvers and a Marlin Mod 1894 C rifle with some pretty hefty charges of Alliant 2400 powder and have never experienced any leading in any of them.

However, before I shoot cast bullets in my firearms I always make sure that I remove all traces of copper jacket fouling from them first. These days I hardly ever shoot jacketed bullets anyway, so for me leading due to jacket fouling is a non-issue with most cast bullets anyway.

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I've tried Hornady lead bullets and had serious leading problems with several different powders and charges. This was both in .38 Special and .45ACP

I use either Midstates cast or Missouri Bullet 158gr LSWC and 4 grains of 231 in my .38's and Oregon Trail 158's and 5.5 grains Unique for the .357's. Nice shooting loads and very little leading.
x2 for Missouri. They state hardness so you can tailor your loads for reduced leading. Great quality and pricing too.

That said, if your looking to make hot/1100 fps+ loads, you might consider somethign with a skin.
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Looking for some recommended 158gr lead bullets for my GP100 and SP101 357 magnums. These would be used for best short range accuracy as well as penetration, and would like to keep leading to a minimum. Any opinions on the Hornaday 10408 or 10428 Hollow point? I recently received 1,500 Starline brass cases and will be loading jacketed hollow points and would like to load some lower velocity (900 fps) lead bullets as well. Winter is here!. Thanks.
I like those as well as the equivalent Speer offerings. I load them less than 900 fps though, usually 700 to 800 fps. They are very accurate and hardly any recoil in a Security Six or GP100.
Like the other replies stated there many cast bullets that are less expensive and can be just as good or better and tailored to the load you want.
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I really have liked Speer's 158g SWCHP, loaded in .357 case with 4g HP-38.

Dardas Cast bullets shoots really well also. Same load. I've had really good results from 20' to 50yds with either of these. (on paper)
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Missouri Bullet Co has very good products & crazy fast shipping.
If you want to learn more about them go to The Highroad & do a search for MBC.

They have 2 different hardnesses in 357 bullets and 3 diff shapes/weights.

For a .357 mag I get what they call "357 Action" it's a semi-wadcutter BHN of 18
so it can be driven to magnum speeds w/o leading.

I usually get just a tiny bit of leading - Hoppe's #9 takes it right out. No excessive scrubbing needed.

It's also waaayyyy cheaper than Hornady or Speer

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Midlife, are we talking full-house .357M loads or something softer? Approximately what is your expected load pressure?
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Softer.....would like accuracy of 158 gr SWC in 357 cases with medium velocity (1000-1100).
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Try 4.0 of Titegroup behind any brand of cast 158 gr bullet in your 38 cases it is +P but mild shooting. I shot over 500 of them this fall and enjoyed them. The bullets were ? brand that were around for 25 years or more. Found in a coffie can in my shed.
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Do you have a suggested load for 357 cases?
I wont be using the 38 special anymore.
Thanks!
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I have had great luck with the Hornady 158 grn. LSWCHP. I load it with 5.4 grains of Universal with a COL of 1.60. Extremely accurate, with very minimal leading, and very little muzzle flash.
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