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Old October 16th, 2010, 11:19 AM   #1
 
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Question Ruger 41 Magnum

I'm in the process of obtaining a Ruger 41 magnum. Finally!! I have found a supplier of 41 Special Brass, marked 41 Special. The problem is I cannot find any reloading data. I'm only loading for punching paper at the range. I want to use 215 grain lead projectles. Does anybody have any info they can share, or tell me where I can get it!

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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:36 PM   #2
 
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Check websites for the various powder and bullet manufacturers.

There aren't a lot of loads for the .41 Mag, but it's a fine chambering. I certainly like mine.

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The 41 Special is a niche cartridge. I've used 41 Magnum cartridges in several guns for a lot of years, I found that 5.0 gr, of Bullseye under any 210/215 gr. cast bullet provided an economical, accurate round in my Rugers, S&W and T/C Contender. With this light load your cases will last many, many reloading cycles.
My own personal opinion and it is my own and no one else's is that the 41 Special is a product of envy; if 44 and 357 Magnums can have a little brother, then the 41 should too.
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Hopefully the 41 Special brass is not costing you an arm and a leg, I've seen it listed at ridiculously high prices. (Midway has it @ $61.99 per 50) If it is expensive you may be better off using magnum brass and light loads.

That being said, I have used 12.5 grs of 2400 with the 215gr swc. I have also seen load data indicating a max load of 7.0grs of Unique. I'm sure if you search the internet you could find more load data, there is a small but dedicated group of 41 Special shooters out there.
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Hopefully the 41 Special brass is not costing you an arm and a leg, I've seen it listed at ridiculously high prices. (Midway has it @ $61.99 per 50) If it is expensive you may be better off using magnum brass and light loads.

That being said, I have used 12.5 grs of 2400 with the 215gr swc. I have also seen load data indicating a max load of 7.0grs of Unique. I'm sure if you search the internet you could find more load data, there is a small but dedicated group of 41 Special shooters out there.
I found a place on the web that sells the brass for $25.95 for 50! Hard to believe right! IT's marked 41 Special.
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if it's marked 41 SPECiAL, it is 1/10th of an inch shorter than .41 mag. The ACTUAL reason a .41 Special EXISTS (in response to the ill-informed comment above) is so you can shoot .41 bullets in COLT SINGLE ACTIONframes without the higher pressures from .41 Magnum (factory) ammo. Some folks also rebore GP-100 and S&W 687 Frames to .41 special, but AGAIN, it's a SAFETY issue.

I have a SA Clone (San Marco) done up for me in .41 SPecial by John Gallagher (Douglas barrel and Smith rear sight grafted into top strap). It is a VERY VERY accurate and fun piece.

Anyone who actually BUYS .41 special brass is nuts. If you actually need some, as opposed to not finding actual .41 mag brass immediately at hand, YOu can simply buy a brass trimmer for 40-50 bucks and make all you want. Heck, until last year when someone almost gave me a brass trimmer, I made my .41 special brass with a 6 buck COPPER PIPE/TUBE CUTTER. The 100 or so I made has lasted for many years and years using the modest loads I use. W231/Unique/700X/RedDot all are fine. In fact, you could quite likely safely use .41 mag loading data by reducing 10% from the STARTING LOADS for .41 mag.

as for .41 mag brass, it doesn't seem THAT hard to find.

http://www.bluestarbrass.com/catalog/npbrass.htm

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...mber=941458683

There is a fairly amazing website called Google . you may have heard of it.

if you do a google search, like this:

.41 special loading data - Google Search

you will get all the .41 special data you need.

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One other reason for the 41 Special is some indoor ranges do not allow magnum headstamped loads, the 41spl headstamp gets you in the door.
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Now that info about the reasoning for the existence of the 41 Special makes sense. I had never had it explained. I like that, especially about having a true 41 in a SA clone. Thanks for the explanation.
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Here is my custom .41 Special SA. It had some very pretty wood grips, but I have to have the Pachy grips on all my SA pistols.

The .41 MAG round is to the left in comparison. Far right round is a 180 grain Wadcutter which can make cloverleaf groups all day long at 25 yards.



Here is my .41 MAG blackhawk. I also had the original barrel cut down to 5" inches (for you close examiners who are wondering!). I have shot this a bunch, so switched over to Super BH grip-frame and the Pachys. The white stuff on the grip is masking tape. My hands aren't huge, so between the rubber Pachys and the little strip of masking tape (so the grip slides easier in recoil0, felt recoil on warmer loads is about NIL.


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I have an Anniversary 357 Flattop that I bought for conversion to 41spl. Should be the perfect size for that purpose.
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Hodgdon's site lists load data for AutoComp, Trailboss, Clays & my favorite, titegroup with a 215 gr lead boolit.
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Sounds like a nice caliber. I love my 41 mag RH. But a question: if you have a 41 mag, why would you buy 41 SPECIAL brass and make shorter ammo that will leave residue in your cylinder chambers in front of the cases?? Especially if you want to use lead bullets? Why not just get 41 MAG brass and load it 'down' if you want a docile cartridge????

I can see wanting a smaller gun, and thus going for a pistol chambered in 41 special. But if you have the mag, then why not use mag brass?

In answer to your loading request, I cannot give you any useful 'light load' data as I load my 41mag up to near max usually. I have found out, however, that with a 'light-for-caliber' bullet, such as a 170 grainer, it does NOT shoot well with light loads at all. The only bullet/load combo I've found that it does not shoot well, btw.
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At the risk of looking like an idiot for responding to a seven year old comment. If you want gentle and accurate from a NM.41 Ruger try 6.5 grains of Trail Boss and a 180 grain cast bullet. recoil is neglible and low noise. At 15 yards it will plunk a dozen bullets in a nickle sized hole.
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