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Old May 9th, 2017, 07:41 AM   #1
 
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lee 44 mag 3 die set/mixed range brass

after ordering the 3 die set I see where it says only use brass fired from my gun using this set due to crimping? I suppose because im not using the fourth fc die. but if I'm very careful in the inspection process and roll crimp with the seating die or use a spare roll crimp die I have from another set I should be fine am I right in that way of thinking?



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Who manufactured the 3 die set you bought and what dies are included ?
I've never heard of "only using brass fired from my gun due to crimping " with 44 magnum dies.....just exactly what do you have ?
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after ordering the 3 die set I see where it says only use brass fired from my gun using this set due to crimping? I suppose because im not using the fourth fc die. but if I'm very careful in the inspection process and roll crimp with the seating die or use a spare roll crimp die I have from another set I should be fine am I right in that way of thinking?
All I can think of from that vague instruction is trim length, uniformity of which determines the quality and consistency of your crimps. You would also have some idea of how many times the cases were used and what kind of stresses they endured, hot or not.

It is a good idea to segregate head stamps and setup crimp based on the average trim length, preferably uniformed on a case trimmer. A dramatic example is Hornady, if they came from cartridges using the FTX bullet, which requires a significantly shorter trim length. A nickel case is a sign and should require checking.
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Sum ding wong! I have never heard of using a specific set of handgun dies for cases only used in a particular gun. Perhaps on a neck size or collet sizing die for rifles, but never heard of this for straight sided handgun cartridges. Could you give us a link for where you read this? It would be very interesting...
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its on the lee reloading website under there 3 die carbide set 44 mag, it states in the 45 or so second commercial that its 3 die set is best used in cartridges fired in your gun. also in the specs on the page somewhere it reads not to used mixed brass with this lee 3 die carbide set. if range brass is being utilized its best to go with our 4 die set with the fc die.. or am I just reading into this to much
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its on the lee reloading website under there 3 die carbide set 44 mag, it states in the 45 or so second commercial that its 3 die set is best used in cartridges fired in your gun. also in the specs on the page somewhere it reads not to used mixed brass with this lee 3 die carbide set. if range brass is being utilized its best to go with our 4 die set with the fc die.. or am I just reading into this to much
I listened to that pretty carefully and think what is intended is to exclude any responsibility for results with range pickups of unknown origin, i.e. you only know your own brass was good at the last firing and have some idea of its number of times used. It seems silly of course, ignoring even new brass. It seems rather strange to throw the comment in there without context.

"works for cases fired only in your gun".

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Exactly! thanks so much at liberty , that statement just seemed out of place. I just started reloading mainly 45 acp but want to get ready for hunting season and have been struggling with accuracy with my 44 so I thought to try some hand loads. I feel more comfortable now , and I will be for sure inspecting all of the range brass and separating out head stamps. Thanks for clearing things up for me
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Yeah, that sounded like a CYR bit from Lee. Both sets use the same sizing, expansion, and seating/crimp dies.

I use their 4 die sets only because I prefer crimping as a separate stage and it's faster with the breech lock press to swap the die than to readjust the seating/crimping die from one operation to the other.

As has been mentioned, consistent case trim length is key when it comes to the crimp.
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