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Old May 1st, 2017, 02:14 AM   #1
 
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What type of powder ?

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I'm new to this site in fact I just joined a couple min ago my ? I love to reload and have been for rifles for a long time . I just purchased a 44 super redhawk with 9.5 barrel and a gp100 357 my reloading manual says for the 44 imr 4227 and accurate 2400 for the gp100 for the bullet size that I'm using any info would be greatly appreciated as this is my first time reloading for these weapons of mass destruction


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I like Alliant 2400 for both .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum loads. I have used IMR4227 in the .44 Magnum and it seemed to make very accurate loads.

I have not been able to find 2400 powder locally for a couple of years. I tried a few .44 Magnum loads with Accurate #9 (AA#9) and so far it seems okay. I think it is a finer powder than 2400 and tends to leak powder from my powder measure.

I never had any problems using IMR4227. I thought it fouled my barrels more and some have told me that it was due to filler in the powder but don't know if there is any truth to that. My loads with 4227 seemed very accurate or I was having a better than average day at the range.
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What grain bullet ?

What grain bullet are you using for both ? I'm checking on the hornady 158 gr xtp for 357 and the 240gr xtp for 44 and Thanks for your input
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Woodsey495, Without a doubt, W-296 or its twin H-110 are the best full power magnum powders you can find for a 357 Mag or 44 Mag. They are "ball" powders so they meter exceptionally well in most any powder measure. They do require a magnum primer but are capable of higher velocity than most other powders while keeping chamber pressure well under SAAMI max.

These two powders are very slow burners .... in fact they take about 15" of bore travel to totally burn up, making them exceptionally good for both rifles and revolvers. These powders do create a large muzzle flash with handguns .... not a big deal unless you shoot at night.

I have chronographed loads with W-296 many times and found the max velocity spreads are very tight .... often under 10 fps. This contributes to accuracy and makes both powders about the most accurate powders on the market.

Of course no powder is perfect so you will find these two powder require a heavier drop weight than most other powders. In other words .... fewer loads per pound. Also, these powders are intended for full power loads and are not recommended for reduced power loads. On the positive side ... the cases are about 90% full so there's no way you can get a double charge and this also contributes to accuracy plus it totally eliminates position sensitivity.
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I'm old school - Unique for .44. My SRH (7-1/2") seems to like about 10.1 or 10.2 gr best with a 240 gr. jacketed hollow point.
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I'm definitely with Iowegan on H110 in .357. I haven't used it in a revolver, but in my Henry with a 20" barrel, I get 2200fps with a 125g XTP bullet. You do go through a jug pretty quick though.
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If loading for accuracy or hunting, I use the Hornady XTP JHP in 158 grain and 240 grain. These are all I use in my .357 & .44 lever guns.

In my single action revolvers, I also load some hard cast lead semi-wadcutters, I use 158 grain for the .357 and in the .44 I use 240 grain swc and also the Keith 250 grain swc.

My favorite load for the .44 revolver is the 250 grain swc (Keith) over 7.5 grains of Unique powder. This would probably be considered a .44 Special +P load.
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Full power loads are fine for the field but an extended range session will be of little benefit except to encourage you to flinch and make your hands sore. While I agree that 296/H110 are great powders for all out power and velocity, I found that they can be hard on forcing cones with extended use. For full power loads, I prefer 2400. Nowadays, my shooting is confined to the range which makes full on loads unnecessary. Unique is my mid-range powder of choice for paper punching. I find it produces accurate loads for both calibers and is easier on the gun and easier on me. If you will be using your guns for both purposes, I would suggest that you will need more than one powder.
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H110/296, 2400, 4227 all work great in the magnums for full power loads. I've also used Blue Dot but you lose a little velocity.
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Your question is similar to asking what kind of truck do you drive, everybody has a favorite.

Mine are Unique in the 44 and Bullseye in the 357..............no issues at all.



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Another big question is what powders can you get .
In the last few years the handgun powder supply has been erratic. My old powders , Bullseye, Unique and 2400, were not to be found on the dealers shelves.
I got out reloading books and made a list of each powder that could be used and bought whatever I could find. Now I've got 700X , Red Dot , Tightgroup , HP38 , Universal , Accurate Arms #2 , #5 , and #7......they all work well. Liking Accurate #5 in 38 special , 357 magnum, 9 mm and 41 magnum. Bullseye is still hard to beat in target loads but Accurate #2 , Red Dot and 700X are decent substitutes .
What can you get ?
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I'm using 210 gr jacketed 44 Mag with Win 296.

I'm using Win 296 on the 454 Casull, 460 and 500 S&W.


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Thank You all for taking time out and helping me as I'm new with reloading pistol but always wanted to get into it . I see just by reading your inputs you all have a vast knowledge of this . I can get some of these powder's mentioned like the 2400 at sportsman warehouse here in WV don't know about the rest but I will check on them and let all of you know what I can and can't find
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I'm old school - Unique for .44. My SRH (7-1/2") seems to like about 10.1 or 10.2 gr best with a 240 gr. jacketed hollow point.
Yep. that's plenty enough bang for me, too.
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Hello All


I'm new to this site in fact I just joined a couple min ago my ? I love to reload and have been for rifles for a long time . I just purchased a 44 super redhawk with 9.5 barrel and a gp100 357 my reloading manual says for the 44 imr 4227 and accurate 2400 for the gp100 for the bullet size that I'm using any info would be greatly appreciated as this is my first time reloading for these weapons of mass destruction


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Powders I use for .44 Mag are Unique, Blue Dot, 2400, VV N350 and VV N110
People I know use H110/W296, IMR4227

It's been long enough since I had a .357 (story there) that I couldn't advise you with personal experience, but with the smaller case capacity I'd have to say Clays or maybe CFE or Titegroup. H110 should work, but the muzzle flash would be spectacular.
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