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Old April 2nd, 2017, 10:00 AM   #1
 
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Wet primers?? Help

So at the range today I was surprised to see that I had 5 cases in my ammo box that I had never charged or loaded...but I had put a primer in them. I immediately remembered how that happened so not a big deal. The STUPID thing is that when I got home to wash my brass I got distracted and got that brass and possibly the primers a little wet....Never submerged...but they got splashed pretty good. It is only 5 so I figure I can go two ways with this.
1) Let them dry and then load them like regular, but keep them marked. See what happens at the range
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2) Remove the primers and start over. But is it safe to remove primers if they are still good? Can I punch them out on my press? Or should I fire them off like blanks?




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Choot em like blanks
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I will. But I am curious if they might work as normal. Some say they are produced wet, and once dry will perform normally.
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Just punch 'em out with your press, but don't use a lot of force just gently force them out of the primer pocket. I wouldn't use them due to the possibility of a squib load.
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I'd knock em out and call it good. What's 5 primers? For me it equates to 20 cents, less aggravating than a squib.




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I'd knock em out and call it good. What's 5 primers? For me it equates to 20 cents, less aggravating than a squib.




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Agree, or put them in your pistol and shoot them as blanks (no powder or bullet), but I would not load them. Lets say you paid $21 for a box of 1000 primers. That's $0.021 cents per primer. Mark 204 is correct 10 to 20 cents is not worth the danger of a squib not the hassle of clearing one.
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Agree, or put them in your pistol and shoot them as blanks (no powder or bullet), but I would not load them. Lets say you paid $21 for a box of 1000 primers. That's $0.021 cents per primer. Mark 204 is correct 10 to 20 cents is not worth the danger of a squib not the hassle of clearing one.
Hey, if you're getting them for $21 per thou put me down for 5, average price in St. Lou is $39..
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Wet primer update

I guess I missed the mark. I was trying to start a discussion to see if anyone had experimented with this before. I had googled this issue first and some people say that Primers are produced wet ( for safety ) and dried out before shipment. Dry them out and your fine as long as they remain flat to dry...something about the anvil moving out of position. I was hoping to hear about people who had been through this same thing and tried to dry them out and fire them. I had pretty much decided not to load and fire them as cost was not really an issue.

Are there accounts of a primer going off if you try to punch it out on the press? I will fire them in the backyard later as this is the easiest and safest way to go, but I am curious about the press punch out.
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I have punched out live primers before, with no ill effects. Just be gentle with them. Frankly, I'd be curious to see if they still worked.
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You can safely press out your live primers, a cinch with a universal decapping die. I used to chamber and fire primed but empty cases . . . now I just press out the live primer and re-use it.

You can also load, mark, and shoot them. I don't know whether they will work or not, or whether you'll get a squib (or a delay) from a slow ignition of all the powder. If you do this, plan for the worst case (a squib) at the range and please report back on your results
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I wouldn't bother trying to dry them but yes, they would probably function fine if allowed to dry. To me it wouldn't be worth the aggravation. I would just de-prime the casings and carry on.

Next issue, removing a potentially live primer from a casing - No big deal. just run it through a decapping die but I would wear safety glasses. The odds are very high that the primer will just be removed but there's a slight chance that it could go off. I've removed live primers and they don't go off if you're careful. If it does go off there's no real danger other than the noise and potential eye injury (hence the glasses).

Firing primed cases to expend the primers - the OP didn't say what type of casing he was dealing with. A revolver casing (such as a 38 Special) with a primer and no powder or bullet can be fired in a revolver BUT the primer will back out and may tie up the action. When intentionally shooting primed but UNLOADED casings in a revolver you should enlarge the flash hole in the primer pocket before priming the casing. That will prevent the primer from backing out when fired in that empty casing BUT it also renders that casing useless for future reloading. Any casings thus modified should be permanently marked and never used to make a live round.

A rimless casing with just a primer (no powder or bullet) can be fired in a semi-auto pistol without locking up the action. It will not cycle the action but the individual casings can be chambered and fired one at a time. Again, I would just de-prime the casings on a press and carry on.

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Just remember, they are LOUD ! You might be quite surprised how loud a primer in an otherwise empty case can be. Don't scare the neighbors, and don't do it indoors without hearing protection.
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Maybe baking in the oven would ensure they were fully dry.

(This is a joke!!!). I in no way condone or recommend putting primers in or out of casings in the oven
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Hey, if you're getting them for $21 per thou put me down for 5, average price in St. Lou is $39..
I don't know we're you're buying primers, but I know I don't shop there.

Cabelas is cheaper than that. You must shop at Bass Pro.

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Last time I removed "live" primers I put a drop of oil in each case, let 'em sit overnight, and then C-A-R-E-F-U-L-L-Y ran 'em thru my decapping die . . . no bangs.

Don't know if the oil was necessary, but it made me feel better.

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