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Old March 26th, 2017, 10:45 AM   #16
 
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Walnut media and a couple of used dryer sheets, (brand not important), they look like you just pulled them out of the box.

I tried new dryer sheets.............didn't have the same effect.


Sounds strange, but it works for me.



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Old March 26th, 2017, 01:26 PM   #17
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Back to your wet tumbling Pampurrs; I would try plain water, pins and brass. Check results. Then try 4 or 5 drops of Dawn, with water and pins. Then I'd try 1/4 tsp of Lemi-shine, Dawn, pins, brass and water. During my experimenting with wet tumbling I tried the formula above and wound up with just water and auto polish (to maintain a shine 'cause nekkid brass soon tarnishes). The pins (I used small cotter pins) did most of the cleaning, and the water was a carrier to suspend/separate the gunk. For my tumbling and my brass, I didn't need a bunch of additives...
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Pam, Slightly acidic solution (ie white vinegar & water or Lemi-Shine) will remove the tarnish from brass. Any alkaline solution will cause more tarnish. Sounds like you have the typical Arizona alkaline water. You can buy a gallon of purified water at the grocery store for a token fee. As others have recommended, try again with the pins, a 50/50 mixture of white vinegar and water or a couple spoonful's of Lemi-Shine, and a couple hours tumbling time. The brass will come out very clean but not very shiny. If you want shiny brass, tumble them in corn cob media after cleaning. You can add some liquid car wax or better yet .... use some Dillon's Rapid Polish .... great stuff. BTW, save the vinegar and water solution .... it can be used a couple more times by just adding a bit more vinegar.
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It's got to be the water. This is the final stage in my brass prep. I've been using the wet and pins for several years and all I use is regular temp water (I read somewhere that hot water was not acceptable), 1 tablespoon of Dawn and 1/4 tsp of LemiShine. That's it, period. Usually three flushs of water to get rid of the soap and residue and into the food dehydrator for a couple of hours.
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I suspect the water. I use automotive wash and wax (car wash), about 1 Tbls and 1/4 tsp of Lemi-shine and the brass comes out sparkling like new in 90 minutes. Dawn will also work but it tends to dull after awhile whereas those done with wash and wax stay looking new.
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I suspect the water. I use automotive wash and wax (car wash), about 1 Tbls and 1/4 tsp of Lemi-shine and the brass comes out sparkling like new in 90 minutes. Dawn will also work but it tends to dull after awhile whereas those done with wash and wax stay looking new.
I'll try this.

Is there a particular brand of wasn n wax that you find works best, or will any product do?

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I think that your water is the main problem as Iowegan has stated. Good Luck in your quest to get the right combination for your brass tumbler etc.
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I'll try this.

Is there a particular brand of wasn n wax that you find works best, or will any product do?

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Armor All or Blue Coral wash & wax have worked well for me. 1 tablespoon of it and 1/4 teaspoon Lemi-shine, same as if using Dawn but the brass will stay looking nice. I've read of tarnish problems when using too much Lemi-Shine so you could try again with the Dawn and 1/4 teaspoon of Lemi-shine to rule out your water as the problem. I use warm tap water and leave about 2" airspace in the frankford arsenal drum. Wash & wax doesn't foam as much as the Dawn.
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Every time I read a thread like this I thank my lucky stars I didn't get suckered into buying a rotary tumbler. All I do with my vibratory tumbler is load it with some Lyman media, add a squirt of car wax and fill it with brass. About an hour later the brass comes out clean and shiny. I separate the brass from the media using a Homer bucket and one of those plastic sifters designed for the purpose. Takes less than a minute. Done. All that water, soap, rinsing, drying & secret formula stuff you have to do with a rotary tumbler sounds like a hassle.
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Often I'm really old school and use a plastic bucket..I de prime the brass to get at all the nooks and crannies ..dump in the brass..add a spoonful of citric acid (ebay or wine making shops)...a squirt of Dawn dish soap, a pinch of salt and a gallon of hot water...it get's the bath with occasional stirs with a wooden spoon and the drained and rinsed well with a bit of baking soda (just a spoonful) and then finally rinsed with hot water for about 5 minutes with stirring...I let it air dry..some use a very low oven but be really careful...if I want jewelry for brass I give it an hour in the tumbler with corncob or lizard bedding..make you blink it's so shiny. got to be dry before the vibrator...Then off to the "processing" steps prior to loading.
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Why do you even need for your brass to be all shiny and pretty? As long as it functions reliably, what difference does it even make ?
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Why do you even need for your brass to be all shiny and pretty? As long as it functions reliably, what difference does it even make ?
It's just a "spit 'n polish" kind of thing. I suppose it's the same reason I keep my car and bike all clean and shiny. They get me where I want to go; clean or dirty, but it's so much nicer when they're shiny
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Every time I read a thread like this I thank my lucky stars I didn't get suckered into buying a rotary tumbler. All I do with my vibratory tumbler is load it with some Lyman media, add a squirt of car wax and fill it with brass. About an hour later the brass comes out clean and shiny. I separate the brass from the media using a Homer bucket and one of those plastic sifters designed for the purpose. Takes less than a minute. Done. All that water, soap, rinsing, drying & secret formula stuff you have to do with a rotary tumbler sounds like a hassle.
Yeah, my steel pin tumbler does such a horrible job. LOL
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Yeah, my steel pin tumbler does such a horrible job. LOL
I didn't say it didn't work. I said it sounded like a hassle compared to a vibratory tumbler. The reason I even posted is because there were several posts claiming that rotary tumbling got the brass "much" cleaner than a vibratory tumbler. My vibratory tumbler cleans my brass with minimal fuss. I don't see how it could get "much" cleaner using a rotary tumbler. Clean is clean.
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I would have to bet there is better cleaning with a steel pin since it's actually tumbling. And greater energy at the case surface.
That being said I don't clean for pretty, I clean for better reloading and not mucking up my dies with grit. Any cleaning is better than none at all.
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