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Old March 11th, 2017, 02:01 PM   #1
 
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Cleaning primer pockets with using lee 4 hole turret press

Hey guys and gals,
Hope this isn't a stupid question. Ive always cleaned the primer pockets while reloading for rifle and pistol on my lee single stage press. But now I've bought a lee 4 hole hole turret press which so far is great. My question is are most of you with a similar press still doin this step. Isn't taking the shells of the press after depriming sort of defeating the purpose of buying a faster press?. I'm only loading .357 mag so far and seating new primers on the press without cleaning pockets hasn't been a problem. Thnks in advance. Gunna.



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Old March 11th, 2017, 02:14 PM   #2
 
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4-hole Lee Turret is all I've used.
I use it as a combo single-stage/turret.
I do all my case prep first. In separate stages:
- Tumble (inspect)
- deprime/resize (inspect again)
- clean/swage primer pocket (inspect again)
- Then I go all turretty doing reprime, charge, seat, crimp all at once.

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Me personally I don't always clean pistol primer pockets. So when I'm loading pistol on the turret press they just get loaded as is.

Though if you wanted to clean the primer pockets, I don't think cleaning them would defeat the advantages of a turret press.

Think about it, after you would clean the primer pockets, you still get to expand/ powder charge, seat a bullet and crimp very quickly in the turret press without having to change dies and switch from one process to the next.

IMO, the turret press would still be advantageous.
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Why clean the primer pocket?
If you must, do it as part of case inspection and sorting prior to case cleaning. You may be happiest with stainless steel pin or ultrasonic cleaning.
The only thing I ever saw to clean in a primer pocket was the occasional white powder that came out and got on the press. The black residue appears the same after the first firing as after the 50th firing.
Some might make claims that is helps for long-range precision rifle, but I haven't seen any proof; however, what is it going to do for a 12 MOA handgun round?
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Hey guys and gals,
Hope this isn't a stupid question. Ive always cleaned the primer pockets while reloading for rifle and pistol on my lee single stage press. But now I've bought a lee 4 hole hole turret press which so far is great. My question is are most of you with a similar press still doin this step. Isn't taking the shells of the press after depriming sort of defeating the purpose of buying a faster press?. I'm only loading .357 mag so far and seating new primers on the press without cleaning pockets hasn't been a problem. Thnks in advance. Gunna.
I also have a Lee 4-Hole Turret Press but after cleaning the cases I deprime, pocket clean and measure, then Hand-Prime the cases with a Lyman E-Zeee Hand primer. Yes it is a few extra steps but I'm what some people call "special". However I've yet to have a FTF because of a poorly seated primer. JMHO

BTW I do this for everything I reload which at present is 9mm, .38Special & .357Mag, .40S&W, 45ACP and 30-30 Win.
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I also have a Lee 4-hole turret press but decap with a Lee single stage breech lock (keeps the turret press clean)
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I do the same as FCCM on a Lee 4 hole turret except I hand prime with a RCBS Bench Priming tool. I was never comfortable seating primers on the press. Since the cases are sized and primed before meeting the press the extra die position contains an RCBS Powder check die to verify the load. I primarily load 357 Mag with light loads and I like the idea of mechanically verifying the powder charge in additional to visually checking the charge with a pivoting mirror as a final check. I use the auto index with a case kicker from Inline Fabrication. Process may be a little slower than it could be but in such a tall dark case with light charges it adds a that extra degree of comfort. But not that much slower.

Cleaning primer pockets may not be needed but it doesn't add that much time either. I use s Dremel tool with a small nylon(?) bush run at low speed that cleans them very quickly. It's part of case inspection and a final check that the case does not contain any left over media from tumbling.
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Get one of these . . .

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/80...le-stage-press

. . . and a universal depriming die and deprime before cleaning/tumbling.

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I clean my brass before depriming.
Keeps my deprime/resize die cleaner and no media in flash hole.
I clean the primer pocket by hand. It's another inspection of each case.

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That's the point of using a dedicated depriming die in the little LEE press. You deprime the brass before cleaning without getting the crap in your good dies in your "big" press. It's easier to inspect clean brass, and any media stuck in the flash hole is removed by the deprime pin in the resizing die.

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I like to start with clean brass and never liked to do the primer pocket cleaning with my RCBS cleaning station.
The rotary tumbler with the steel media does the trick.
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I haven't cleaned a primer pocket in tens of thousands of rounds in the past few years.
I have been a competitive shooter for many, many years in bench, high power, IPSC (both rifle and pistol), and pistol.

I have two Dillon 550B's and a Lee Classic Turret Press as well as a single stage RCBS press. None of them have needed cleaned primer pockets for excellent results.

YMMV

Do what pleases YOU but that is something I do not do (clean primer pockets).

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I haven't cleaned a primer pocket in tens of thousands of rounds in the past few years.Dale53
Do you clean your brass? Do you deprime before cleaning?

Just curious.

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After using a single-stage for years, I received a Lee Classic Turret as a gift. I'm wrestling with the same thing.

What I've done is this - decap with a universal decapper, then dry tumble in walnut shell.
Then "go all turrety" ( I love that phrase...).
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Another vote for depriming as a separate operation. I wet tumble my brass with those stainless steel pins. After about two hours the primer pockets are clean and the brass is as shiny as new. Next I prime with a bench primer tool. Now the brass is ready for reloading on the turret press. I load 9mm, .357 Mag. and 45 ACP. I don't really believe much is gained by cleaning the primer pockets in these calibers. I'm just like the look of wet tumbled squeaky clean brass. I'm happy with the classic turret press and since I"m retired I have time to do those extra steps.
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