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Old March 7th, 2017, 07:39 AM   #1
 
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Pulling bullets on live rounds

So far, I have only used my kinetic bullet puller to pull bullets from rounds without powder or primers in them (made while setting up the dies). In the meantime, I've built up quite a collection of mistakes that DO have powder and primer in them, and I've been hesitant to pull the bullets. Some of them have high primers, a couple even have primers that went in sideways.

I've seen quite a few posts around the internet about kabooms happening while using a kinetic bullet puller on a live round. Knowing what I know (very little) about how primers work, this is illogical. However, I am still approaching this with caution.

I would like to hear from my trusted friends here on the reloading forum as to what they think about bullet pulling on a live round.

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Touchy subject Pam and you're probably going to get a lot of different opinions.


I will knock out a live round if it comes down to it with a "knocker", it doesn't happen often but it has. I once pulled 27 .223's because I questioned the charge.

In 27 years I haven't had a problem and I feel comfortable doing it. We all know that just about anything can happen reloading, but the same can be said about things we do in our daily lives.

I'm not going to advise you to do it nor am I against it......it boils down to a personal choice.


I probably was of no help, JMO.




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I didn't know that I thought that's what it was for been doing it all the time


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I've unloaded many rounds with my kinetic puller without issues.

I always wear eye and ear protection to do it and long sleeves if im doing a large batch.

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I have never had a problem pulling bullets with a kinetic puller.
Occasionally, I have had to put the round in the seater die and push the bullet lower to break the seal or grip of the crimp. If you are trying to save the bullet from damage, put a cotton ball in the bottom of the puller to cushion the bullet impact.
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I have been using my kinetic puller on live rounds for thirty years without mishap. I have used it on everything from 9mm to .30-06. Mistakes happen, and setting seating depth and other adjustments can produce out of spec rounds. I do recommend eye protection though. I just turn my face away and slam the hammer onto the concrete floor. After a couple of whacks I hear the bullet rattling around and it's time to start over.
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If you're nervous about it, you could use a collet puller.
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I've unloaded plenty of live rounds without any problems. I put all powder and primers away and wear glasses before doing it just in case.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 10:26 AM   #9
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I too am in the "done it lot's of times" camp. I even use standard shell holders (a few years ago I read if problems, but not for quite a while). I've pulled my faux pas and I once pulled a few bullets out of military surplus ammo and saved the primed brass for my reloads. Totally safe...
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I'm brand new to having to pull a few. I've been reloading about as long as Pam and I've made a few mistakes too. Got a Lyman puller this past Saturday and been whacking away.
I didn't even know this was a concern.
I do also wear eye protection, but that's with nearly everything involving whacking. Spent 3 grand to have lasers shot into my eyeballs a year ago, I want to protect my newfound Superman vision.
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Never had a problem with my kinetic bullet puller.
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Using a kinetic bullet puller is safe if it hasn't been modified and if it's used as it should be used.

Nothing can be allowed to touch or cover the primer . . . that's why there's a hole in the end cap in which the primer should appear centered. Do NOT use a shell holder in place of the supplied collets . . . that can and has caused kabooms. (And safety glasses are never a bad idea.)

Nothing to do with safety, but another tip that helped me . . . strike the "hammer" against a hard immovable surface and try to prevent the hammer from bouncing back up. Bullets seem to come out quicker when the rebound off that surface is reduced. Same principle as behind "don't limp-wrist a semi-auto".
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I've heard the opposite that it's the rebound that pulls the bullets


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From my experience, its the downward momentum that carries the bullet out of the stopped shell. But I could be wrong.

I've unloaded 9mm and .44mag rounds by hitting the bottom of my shoe. (due to trying to be quiet after bedtime). It does work. But not as good as solid hits on a good wood or concrete surface. Maybe even an anvil.

I'll say this, knocking out crimped 7mmRemMag rounds has proven to be a pita. I may try running them down a hair more in the seater to break the crimp. That kinda makes sense.
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redford1, It's the sudden stop that pulls bullets ... the old physics law .... objects in motion want to stay in motion.

I agree with Twoboxer .... use the kinetic puller as designed and it will work safely. Using a shell holder instead of the supplied aluminum collets with an "O" ring is potentially dangerous.

I would hate to guess how many cartridges I've pulled bullets with a kinetic bullet puller ...... it has to be in the thousands and never a problem. Years ago, I bought hundreds of surplus military cartridges .... pulled the bullets and deprimed ... then used the cases and bullets for other loads. It's not unusual for me to get a couple boxes of reloaded ammo in gun trades. I don't shoot other people's reloads so it gets torn down, making the cases and bullets available for my own loads. Then there are mistakes and test loads that didn't work out .... lot's more pounding.
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