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Old March 10th, 2017, 05:51 AM   #46
 
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I use a sharpie to place a colored swipe across the base of each pistol and 223 round I make. I do that while ensuring each round has been checked for an unfired, properly seated primer after the ammo has been placed nose down in 100-count ammo boxes. Other rifle brass needs no mark because it never hits the ground.

When I pick up brass I immediately know which cases are mine, and therefore I know what caliber they are. Only the remainder if any need to be sorted.

When there are other shooters around, I pick up my brass after 10 or 20 rounds (9mm) or 5-10 rounds (45ACP) to avoid having my brass swept up by others. The stripes help again by telling me how many more I need to find. This happens to be an especially important use in 45ACP because I exclusively use small primer brass.

FWIW I also stopped using a broom to avoid stirring up whatever lead is on the floor after learning that some kids who routinely swept up brass had higher than expected lead levels. Paranoid, maybe . . . but I had noticeable blood lead levels which began to come down once I stopped doing that. Now I pick up by hand or using a scraper . . . which BTW the indoor ranges in my area have switched to.
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I hate .380 for an entirely different reason: it's a useless caliber and it's not good at anything IMO. It sucks as a SD round, you can't hunt with it and it's definitely not exciting to shoot. It isn't particularly accurate and the short barrels it normally gets fired from doesn't help with that. The ammo isn't cheap relative to what it's capabilities are and sometimes can be hard to find. Plus, some gun manufacturers chamber real guns with it and charge you as if it was a real caliber. I also question the masculinity of men that carry a 380 for CCW. I can understand why some women might carry 380 but there's no justification for a grown man doing so. I have no use for the 380.

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Pampurrs I have been to ranges where this is the rule. As with any business you follow their rules or go someplace else. They don't make it a secret you know before you pay your money and shoot.


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got some 38 super the other day LOL
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Pampurrs, I shot skeet for several years and virtually every range had the same rules ... if the case touches the ground, it becomes range property. I used an over/under with the ejectors disabled so I had to manually pull the spent hulls out of the chambers. Back then, I couldn't afford to shoot if I couldn't reload. I have seen many people thrown off the range for violating the "ground" rules.

At rifle and pistol ranges, the workers would sweep up the brass, sort it out and sell it back to anyone that wanted it. Seems revolver brass was always a higher price because the shooters could dump their empties without them hitting the ground. I used to game the system with my 1911 by shooting reloads where the brass was about kaput. I would then buy once fired, hand sorted 45 ACP brass .... all the same headstamp for a nickel each.

I used to live out in your area and shoot at the Usery Mountain range in Mesa. At one time the staff decided to use the "ground rule" for brass. Just about everyone complained and many people terminated their membership. It only took about a month for the management to change the rules back to the way they were.

Funny .... I've seen people get in fights over brass when someone would walk away and leave their brass on the ground. You would think it was gold the way the people scurried around to pick it up.

I'm very fortunate .... my son has a private range at his farm that I can use any time I want. Before I moved in September, I was only 5 minutes away but now it's more like 40 minutes. Still not bad .... the price is right and I often pick up brass left by my son's friends that don't reload. I would have a hard time going back to a public range .... cease fires, strict rules (and rightfully so), with lots of dumbasses that don't have a clue about range safety.
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I used to shoot and reload 380 a well as 9mm. After collecting my brass and getting home, I sort the obvious brass out like 45, 40 and 9s (Kurtz and Luger). When I shot both 9 and 380, I would stand them up on my workbench and sort by height. I found that easier than reading the head stamps.
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Apparently you didn't bother reading my original post. I don't shoot 380 EVER. I was talking about when I'm shooting my 9mm and someone next to me is shooting 380 and it gets mixed into my brass when I sweep it up.
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Pampurrs I have been to ranges where this is the rule. As with any business you follow their rules or go someplace else. They don't make it a secret you know before you pay your money and shoot.


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Fortunately, we don't have such places here, at least none that Ive ever heard of.  I doubt that any of my friends would, and I know I wouldn't shoot at a place that doesn't let us police our own brass.

If I ever did end up at a place that had that rule and I had no other place to shoot, I would only shoot my revolvers.
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Hey sorry I stepped on your toes, don't take it personal I was kidding around with you!
'tis OK. I like to jump into bitch mode every now and then
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I hate .380 for an entirely different reason: it's a useless caliber and it's not good at anything IMO. It sucks as a SD round, you can't hunt with it and it's definitely not exciting to shoot. It isn't particularly accurate and the short barrels it normally gets fired from doesn't help with that. The ammo isn't cheap relative to what it's capabilities are and sometimes can be hard to find. Plus, some gun manufacturers chamber real guns with it and charge you as if it was a real caliber. I also question the masculinity of men that carry a 380 for CCW. I can understand why some women might carry 380 but there's no justification for a grown man doing so. I have no use for the 380.
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Furthermore, the shooter's right to retrieve his/her own brass is protected under the legal theory, "Animus Possidendi" or the "Right of Possession".
Pam, unfortunately that theory is usually overridden by the theory of "It's my range, my rules! Don't like it? There's the door!"

It's one of the reasons I usually shoot revolvers "in public".


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Heck, I normally just shoot my revolvers because my poor knees don't like me picking up brass. I can get down, but getting up hurts. Old age sucks, but I guess it beats the alternative. LOL!
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Mooosie,

My mother had both knees done about five years ago and keeps telling me the same thing. I will break down one of these days and have them done too. It is just so much easier to shoot revolvers.

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Funny .... I've seen people get in fights over brass when someone would walk away and leave their brass on the ground. You would think it was gold the way the people scurried around to pick it up.

At the one of ranges I frequent they have had a few "altercations" when guy "a" was catching the ejected brass before it hit the ground, while guy "b" was shooting. You're right, some people completely lose their heads, when it comes to "free brass"
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