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Old March 5th, 2017, 03:38 PM   #1
 
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Hornady Lock & Load progessive

Good evening Fellows, I'm looking for some info. I've been looking at one of these progressive press for several years now and I'm about to pull the trigger on one. I've been loading on a single stage press for many, many years and I think it's time to treat myself. So here's my questions. What all would I need to order to get this thing up and running. Now of course I've already got dies, ect, but I'm reading about bushings, plates. I just don't want to get it and still be missing something that I need to get started and I also don't want some sales person getting me to buy a bunch of crap that I don't need.
I'll be basically just loading for my shooters.
380, 9mm, 38 special, 357, 44 mag, 45acp and 45 colt
Any input from someone that has one would surely be appreciated.
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Old March 5th, 2017, 03:57 PM   #2
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You'll need a shell plate for the calibers you want to reload. Of course the 38/357 will be the same and the 9mm/380 may be as well but am not sure on that. The press used to come with 3 bushings but look into getting multi packs for your other dies and you'll save a little money. I had a LNL AP for several years but never could avoid it spilling a few grains of powder when loading magnum cases with max charges when the shell plate indexed but other than that, it did great with regular loads such as 38 special. I ended up going back to turret presses but sometimes miss the progressive.
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Good evening Fellows, I'm looking for some info. I've been looking at one of these progressive press for several years now and I'm about to pull the trigger on one. I've been loading on a single stage press for many, many years and I think it's time to treat myself. So here's my questions. What all would I need to order to get this thing up and running. Now of course I've already got dies, ect, but I'm reading about bushings, plates. I just don't want to get it and still be missing something that I need to get started and I also don't want some sales person getting me to buy a bunch of crap that I don't need.
I'll be basically just loading for my shooters.
380, 9mm, 38 special, 357, 44 mag, 45acp and 45 colt
Any input from someone that has one would surely be appreciated.
Thanks
1. Shellplates:
Chart is HERE. Looks like you will need 16, 8, 6, 30, 45, 32 respectively . . . but check for yourself.

2. Bushings:
You will need one bushing for each specialty die you plan to use on the AP . . . powder measure die, powder check die, universal decapper (though you'll probably leave that for your single stage at least for now).

You will want/need one bushing for each sizing die and seating die. If you crimp/close the bell separately (recommended) you'll need a bushing for each of those.

See below for more info on bushings.

3. Powder Measure Rotor and Meter
I *believe* the AP comes with a powder measure equipped with a "standard" rotor . . . if so, that works well for powder charges >17gr. If that's the case, you will want to buy a pistol rotor and meter insert.

4. Tips/Future Possibilities
- (Now) The manual is downloadable for reference . . . google "Hornady AP manual".

- (Now) Amazon is a good place to check for equipment prices, especially if you have Prime.

- (Now) Buy a ten-pack of bushings immediately . . . do some setup and reloading and then, before you use up the last 3 of those 10, calculate what you need beyond that and order them.

- (Soon, when convenient) Your AP comes with a couple of spare parts. With your next order you would do well to buy 2 Part#8 (LNL AP Bracket) and 2 Part#17 (Spring Case Retainer). If you have a history of SPROING when removing springs, grab a couple Part#16 (Spring, Primer Slide) as well.

- (Future) There are other parts you can buy to eliminate adjustments to (eg) the powder measure . . . get some experience first and then come back when some part of caliber changeover becomes tedious and worth spending some money on.

- If in doubt about anything, CALL HORNADY and ask. Unlike manufacturers of other consumer products, they really like talking to you and helping.
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Since you are loading 38 and 357, you may want to get three of these.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/31...ial-357-magnum

You won't need to adjust your expander die, your bullet seating die (if you use the same bullet), or your powder measure when you switch to 357.
They also work for 44 spec/mag.
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I have owned one for about two years and just now comfortable with getting rid of my single stage and turret.

With the single stage/turret I never had a bad round made in over thirty years. Can't say the same for the LNL AP. This can be frustrating at first but when you can easily crank out 100 rounds in 15 minutes it seems less of a problem.
There are many YouTube videos (some better than others) that will let you fine tune the unit. I got tired of certain little problems and finally spent time watching them.
Actually the only problem I still have is upside down primers. Maybe 1 in 200-300 rounds. It used to be much more but smoothing certain parts was the fix.
Some units are reported problem free but others not. I got mine at a great sale price and it had a couple of the rough parts the videos talked about.

It came with rifle and handgun metering inserts. The powder measure is decent.
I bought the LED attachment along with many bushings and a couple spare parts.
I recently broke the large primer slide and one call to Hornady had a new one on the way.

I bought the Inline Fabrication mount system. It is a purchase I am very happy with. Keeps the press up off the bench and organizes all the spare stuff. Also am able to swap out with the other presses and my vise.
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I'm not dissing Hornady because I do have a fair amount of their equipment , but if you haven't made your purchase yet I would suggest you take a look at the Dillon 550.

Dillon is the company everyone else wants to be like.



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I don't know if you ever experienced this, but it happened to me and a neighbor of mine, on his Hornady single stage press. Once in awhile a lock&load bushing would unlock. When it happened to me it was the powder measure that came unlocked. When the shell casing came up it lifted the entire powder measure and didn't drop any powder. To remedy this, I drilled and tapped a 1/4-20 hole and installed a thumb screw.

(I backed the screw out a few turns for the photo.)
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I don't know if you ever experienced this, but it happened to me and a neighbor of mine, on his Hornady single stage press. Once in awhile a lock&load bushing would unlock. When it happened to me it was the powder measure that came unlocked. When the shell casing came up it lifted the entire powder measure and didn't drop any powder. To remedy this, I drilled and tapped a 1/4-20 hole and installed a thumb screw.

(I backed the screw out a few turns for the photo.)
Issues like this don't happen with a Dillon.

Like I said, Dillon is the company everyone else want to be like.

Sorry vilkus, I'm not picking on you.



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Issues like this don't happen with a Dillon.

Like I said, Dillon is the company everyone else want to be like.

Sorry vilkus, I'm not picking on you.



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No offence taken Mark. You gave good advice IMO.
I actually looked at Dillon before buying Hornady. A friend had a Dillon that he was happy with. BTW this was around 30 yrs ago, so I'm sure they have changed. At that time they were manual indexing and four stations,( I think.)

I can't remember the reasons at the time, but I ended up with the Hornady, which was brand new to the market at the time. I eventually sold that machine to a friend who "needed" it. My newer replacement is about ten years old.

It's always good to look at different offerings, and try them if you can. Not everyone's needs are the same. That's why they make both Fords and Chevy's.

BTW, to the OP I'm not far from Hillsville VA., if you want to take a ride, and try my press, your welcome. Just PM me.

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No offence taken Mark. You gave good advice IMO.
I actually looked at Dillon before buying Hornady. A friend had a Dillon that he was happy with. BTW this was around 30 yrs ago, so I'm sure they have changed. At that time they were manual indexing and four stations,( I think.)

I can't remember the reasons at the time, but I ended up with the Hornady, which was brand new to the market at the time. I eventually sold that machine to a friend who "needed" it. My newer replacement is about ten years old.

It's always good to look at different offerings, and try them if you can. Not everyone's needs are the same. That's why they make both Fords and Chevy's.

BTW, to the OP I'm not far from Hillsville VA., if you want to take a ride, and try my press, your welcome. Just PM me.

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My Dillon is about 27 years old now.......Manual indexing, four station, I don't think they have really changed anything on them over the years.

I'm sorry you had to make modification to your press, just seems wrong.


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GONRA sez Dillons are great too. Checkout the MODERN Dillons.

Do NOT get rid of yer Single Stage Press and Related Equipment!
You'll appreciate single stage press for "necked rifle caliber case prep"
to feed yer Progressive Press. Makes everything easier and trouble free....
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My Dillon is about 27 years old now.......Manual indexing, four station, I don't think they have really changed anything on them over the years.

I'm sorry you had to make modification to your press, just seems wrong.


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No big deal. I needed to redesign my Chevy too.

Every now and then I buy something that doesn't need to be fixed. It's nice for a change.

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I don't know if you ever experienced this, but it happened to me and a neighbor of mine, on his Hornady single stage press. Once in awhile a lock&load bushing would unlock. When it happened to me it was the powder measure that came unlocked. When the shell casing came up it lifted the entire powder measure and didn't drop any powder. To remedy this, I drilled and tapped a 1/4-20 hole and installed a thumb screw.

(I backed the screw out a few turns for the photo.)
Had my powder measure come loose as well but I placed another O ring on the bushing and never had another issue.
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