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Old February 28th, 2017, 08:35 AM   #16
 
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Lowegan, don't feel bad, had the same thing happen to me about 4-5 years ago at a local gun show. Fortunately for me I am a caster so what cost me about three times as much for the equivalent of lead, I produced into useable bullets.



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Old February 28th, 2017, 09:32 AM   #17
 
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Gee, those were cheap enough, and they're soft enough - you could always melt them and pour some round balls for your muzzle loader!

I guess I'll be taking a Mic with me to Wannamacher's!
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Old February 28th, 2017, 09:53 AM   #18
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I'm a confirmed tinkerer, and I like your solution. I normally don't count my time as a plus nor minus when doing anything reloading/gun related, mainly because they are my hobbies. My feel good, relaxing time. I've even been known to deburr the interior of about 100 flash holes, by hand. My marksmanship will in no way show any betterment of accuracy for such a trivial task, but I was foolin' with my "gun stuff", not wasting time.

I have just received a new Forster Co-Ax and don't have enough "good" lock rings (Forster/Sinclair type) so I've been drilling and tapping some Lee lock rings and using nylon tipped set screws. I have some Forster rings on order, but, I'm still foolin' with my new toy. Not "worth" my time (when I retired I was making $41.50 per hr.)? Sure it is!
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Wow, Iowegan, what a range of weights. I've never bought gun show bullets, as I cast my own, for the most part. I've found that a 50-50 alloy of wheel weights and pure lead works very well up to 1100 fps with a decent lube job. For that, I like 50-50 alox/beeswax, then a light, very light swirl lube of Lee Liquid Alox.

For good quality commercial bullets, Missouri Bullet Co. is my source...I especially like their .40 SWC's at 155 gr, as well as their .45's at 200 gr's. a SWC design. Missouri, like other commercial casters, uses a very hard lube, and usually a hard alloy as well...for me I've found that that combination will produce leading unless the velocity is kept pretty high. For use at less than 1000 fps, I re-lube commercial cast bullets with Lee Liquid Alox (LLA) and Lee's swirl lubing method...it really helps.

You're aware of all of this no doubt, but some of our newer shooters, just into reloading, might find it useful.

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Rodfac, Many years ago, I used to cast my own bullets .... all except hollow base wad cutters because the skirts tend to separate and leave a major obstruction in the bore. Commercial made hollow base wad cutters are swaged and are typically BHN 10. Like you, I am a frequent Missouri Bullet Company customer.

Yesterday I broke out my digital scale and set it up in the "Tare weight" mode. I then went through all 500 bullets using 153 gr as a reference point. Any bullet that was more than .5gr too heavy or too light got culled. I ended up with a little over 300 153gr (+or-.5gr). I'm quite sure these bullets will shoot OK, even though they are 5 grains heavier than the 148gr marking on the box.

I examined several of the heavy and light bullets and found the skirts had been cut at an angle. No doubt, they would literally whiffle down range. So I now have almost 200 misfits. At least I was able to salvage some of them.

FYI, Good bullet lubes and gas checks fall in the same category. They allow bullets that are too hard to obturate to shoot decent with minimal bore fouling. When bullet hardness matches chamber pressure (BHN=chamber pressure divided by 1400), you don't need any bullet lube or gas checks to get a foul free bore.
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I had a similar situation with some sintered 40 cal bullets, after much die setting trial and error I gave them to a friend with a warning about my inabilities to make a decent load with them. Was only $40 down the pipe and I went back to Nosler's after that lesson.
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I haven't bought ANYTHING at a gun show since the early 90'. I take that back..............I have bought some beer.



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My reloading store has "manufactured" lead bullets from a reliable local supplier and also carries Hornaday 148gr HBWC. No difference in price. Which would you buy?
If you said Hornaday you are correct.
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The reason I got into casting bullets because the quality of commercial cast bullets was variable but if they are cheap enough I still pick them up. I just do a quick sort and use the bad ones for rapid fire practice or fouling shots.
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Today's "gun shows" are literally 'flea markets'.
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Last gun show I went too got a great deal on 2 CD's of golden oldies. Everything else was way expensive or just junk.
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