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Old March 3rd, 2017, 03:40 AM   #16
 
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For lead bullets, buy the Lyman manual. Other than that, you'll find some lead bullet data in most manuals, but some really load very light for lead bullets and are only good for light target loads.
I don't see any manual as better than any other, as they all test the same way today (or they better be following SAAMI guidelines) and the differences have to do with the guns used for testing and the lot numbers of the components used and the test COL. Thus, EVERY manual can give significantly different results than you'll get with your gun, your exact components, and your COL.
I prefer to invest in many and check them all and use the lowest starting load and work up. I don't consider safety to be a waste of components.

For 45 Auto, you can find lots of "pet loads" from Bullseye shooters using 185gn JHP bullets and 185 or 200gn L-SWC bullets using Bullseye, Red Dot, AA2, and 231/HP38.
I prefer Zero 200gn swaged L-SWC or Precision Bullets 200gn swaged and coated L-SWCs. Best powder I have found for my .45 Autos has been 231/HP38, with a charge weight of 4.6-5.0gn.
Other than that, you have over 100 years of .45 Auto load data out there.




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I have decided to start with a Lee Classic turret press, resisting the temptation to go with a progressive. Want to start with seeing each step in front of me and taking my time. After a few 1000 with this press and experience with different types of loads I might consider a Dillon progressive.

Latest editions of the Lee, Sierra, Hornady and Lyman manuals are inbound.
Will start with 230 gr 45 acp fmj bullets, replicating the loads I have been shooting. Then will try 230 gr copper coated to compare. Then possibly the Missouri swc loads Commo has tried.

Thanks to all who have contributed to my reloading launch.
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I have decided to start with a Lee Classic turret press, resisting the temptation to go with a progressive. Want to start with seeing each step in front of me and taking my time. After a few 1000 with this press and experience with different types of loads I might consider a Dillon progressive.

Latest editions of the Lee, Sierra, Hornady and Lyman manuals are inbound.
Will start with 230 gr 45 acp fmj bullets, replicating the loads I have been shooting. Then will try 230 gr copper coated to compare. Then possibly the Missouri swc loads Commo has tried.

Thanks to all who have contributed to my reloading launch.
Good choices and a wise move to be able to see each step.
Try the plated and coated bullets to keep cost down. I just never felt the need to go progressive and still like to "eyeball" each charged case before seating a bullet. I'm a bit safety conscious ...but that's not a bad thing in this hobby.
You seem to have the attributes that will allow you to be a good , safe reloader, Carry on and Load Safe.
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the differences have to do with the guns used for testing
Indeed different guns are used for chronograph tests but all pressure testing is done in a SAAMI approved chambered test barrel using SAAMI approved ancillary equipment and procedures. This keeps the playing field level for all SAAMI participants .... which are nearly all US ammunition manufacturers plus companies that compile reloading manuals.

Revolver loads are always chronographed in a revolver and pistol loads are always chronographed in a pistol so the primary difference is simply barrel length. Variations from different lots of powder are negligible .... no more than 25 fps. Bullet weights from reputable manufacturers are also negligible, however variations from local casters may be notable.

All in all, after adjustments for barrel length and B/C gap, if your loads chronograph notably higher or lower than the test gun used then you have other issues. The exception being ... when you load semi-auto ammo and shoot it in a revolver (ie 9mm, 45 Auto), chances are your velocities will be considerably different than what the reloading book says.
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There are reloading manuals that are just for one caliber that you can buy thru Midway USA or at the local LGS.
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RonHK, I've only been reloading for about 6 months and started out with the Lyman manual. I then purchased a Hornady manual and now buy a lot of their bullets. I cross reference between those manuals and the Alliant reloaders guide since I use their powder exclusively. I try to stay with the same bullets and load below the maximum loads to be safe. So far, I have not had any problems.

As many others have said, reloading is not rocket science, but it does require attention to detail. If you stay within the guidelines of the manual(s), you should be able to reload with no problems.

Welcome to reloading!

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