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Old February 23rd, 2017, 04:47 PM   #1
 
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Tried some Titegroup

Does anyone here use Titegroup powder? I bought a pound the other day because it was on sale, and seems to be pretty versatile.

I shot a few rounds of .357 today in my Blackhawk. They seemed accurate enough, and consistent. They also created a whole lotta smoke, and my gun got really sooty after only 15 rounds of the stuff. Is that normal for Titegroup?



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I've used Titegroup for several different calibers. It is dirty. There are better powders but it works.

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For me titegroup burns cleaner in semi auto cases than it does in the longer rimmed cases.
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Does anyone here use Titegroup powder? I bought a pound the other day because it was on sale, and seems to be pretty versatile.

I shot a few rounds of .357 today in my Blackhawk. They seemed accurate enough, and consistent. They also created a whole lotta smoke, and my gun got really sooty after only 15 rounds of the stuff. Is that normal for Titegroup?
I've been using TiteGroup in .38 Special/.357Mag, 9mm and .45ACP for a little over a year now and have gotten very good results in all of the calibers. It is a bit dirtier than say Bullseye IMHO but not too bad.

I don't get a lot of smoke as you mentioned, what was your load, if I may ask? I use 7.2gr for a 125gr CMJ FP bullet and get amazing results from my GP100 with a 6" barrel.
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I've used TiteGroup for about 3 years on 9mm, .380 &.45 acp with no issues with medium range loads. It's my favorite for .380 acp reloads.

I also did not notice it was dirty.
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I've been using TiteGroup in .38 Special/.357Mag, 9mm and .45ACP for a little over a year now and have gotten very good results in all of the calibers. It is a bit dirtier than say Bullseye IMHO but not too bad.

I don't get a lot of smoke as you mentioned, what was your load, if I may ask? I use 7.2gr for a 125gr CMJ FP bullet and get amazing results from my GP100 with a 6" barrel.
4.5 grains with 158 grain lead round nose bullets.
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Try raising the load a bit if the load data suggests you can. It may help to shoot it a bit hotter.
I tried Titegroup in 357 and found it to be ok, but not if you're interested in magnum velocity.
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Try raising the load a bit if the load data suggests you can. It may help to shoot it a bit hotter.
I tried Titegroup in 357 and found it to be ok, but not if you're interested in magnum velocity.
The range in my Lee book is from 4.5 to 5. Not much room, but I think if I make more of them I will try going up to 5 grains.
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I use it a LOT for 44, 38, 357,45 colt, 44 mag (lighter loads), 45 AR, 45 acp,38-40,==just about any pistol loads (revolver at least). A little dirtier but I like it's positional friendly.
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As for the smokiness, I wonder if using plated bullets would help. Those lead bullets have a big ol' lube ring on them, so there's probably a lot of grease on each bullet.

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Sadly I can't report if it is dirty or not. Using 3.4grains to reload 147gr plated bullets in 9mm.

This is my load to shoot suppressed so the gun is going to get dirty regardless. It cycles all my 9mm guns suppressed and unsuppressed and it's quiet

--- these are what I've shot it with. All suppressed and unsuppressed.
Ruger SR1911 LW Cmdr
Glock 19
HK VP9
Beretta 92F
SIG MPX 4.5" barrel
AR9 SBR 4.5" barrel

Getting a threaded barrel in for a SIG P320 and waiting on my CZ P10C and will see if I need to change the recipe or not.


Got some unique powder as well to try but the Titegroup has been working fine.
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I have been using titegroup for a couple of years in 45 acp and 45 colt. I switched over from unique which I could no longer find at the LGS. I have not found it to be any dirtier than others. A little sure goes a long ways, and thus is very economical.
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Titegroup burns hot (leading possible) and violent (spiky chamber pressure build up) at near max load data with very narrow load range for many loads (some may consider the start charge to be already near max) .

The low charge weights also means a double or triple charge is easy to do and easy to miss. Some do not use TG for this reason alone.

Popular powder with many match shooters. titegroup gets a bit temperamental at the upper end of the charge weights with heavy 45 bullets. Accurate.

Titegroup also has a good reputation for being incredibly uncaring and insensitive to powder position. small load range for 38 (as well as 357) - 3.2g up to 3.8g

Precision Bullets says TG and VV n310 can melt the propretary coating on their bullets

If you do not know how to read pressure signs on revolver and brass, then I do not recommend TiteGroup !
Spiky means your pressures are going up steadily as you increase powder. But at the upper end, the "going up steadily" turns to huge pressure increases with a tiny amount of additional powder.

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Well, I cleaned my Blackhawk. Took about twice as long as normal, used twice as many patches, twice as many q-tips, lots of Hoppe's and elbow grease...

Still, the stuff worked. Accurate load. I'm thinking I will try some slightly hotter loads using XTP hollow points. Maybe those will burn cleaner.
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I use Titegroup in the 9MM, doesn't seem especially dirty with plated bullets. Cast bullets are really dirty no matter the powder, a lot of the smoke and the soot are from the bullet lube. Hoppes #9 or Breakfree CLP wipe most of the stuff off the cylinder and frame. I usually clean every 100 to 200 rounds and it's not a problem. I currently use WST in the .38 and .45.
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