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Old February 10th, 2017, 02:06 PM   #1
 
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Powder Dipper

Powder dipper made from a .40 auto case shortened by my case trimmer until it holds just the right amount of Unique for my .45 LC with the 256 grain bullet.




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Nice job! I've thought about making one myself. Very nice.
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Looks like someone had to much time on their hand this winter, lol.

I like it.......makes me think....Hmmmm, what can I do?

Beats the cap out of a Lee Dipper...............



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I have a set of powder dippers from lee decades old and I still use it for some loads madeon a single stage press.
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Cool idea!
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I've made several of these for different loads. They're great, and easy to make to size if you have access to a lathe. I use steel handles from coat hanger wire soldered into a hole drilled into the thick base of the shell. Label each with a sharpie.
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I've been an enthusiastic user of Lee's Dippers for a few years. I have also been interested in making some of these custom units out of old, un-usable brass. I have seen these interesting, simple little tools on the Forum, before, and they make good sense, I think. It would make a perfect tool for loads that don't exactly fit the Lee system.

Permanently engraving them would be a good idea; double checking is so important to safety. This makes me think that I need to go out and build a few, this afternoon! Thanks for sharing these good ideas!
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I have a set of Lee dippers and usually get a dipper with Lee dies when I buy them.

For the couple loads I use Unique and my 3031 .300 Savage load, I took the dipper that throws a bit heavy and filed them down. I filed down the mouth of the dippers and then gave them a twist of my case deburr tool to clean off the trimmings.

I rarely use them for anything else, so figure I could always get new ones if the need should arise.

However, mine aren't as classy as Sparkplug's...

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Has anyone ever weighed a number of dipper loads to see how much they actually vary in weight?
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Has anyone ever weighed a number of dipper loads to see how much they actually vary in weight?
I do. Even using dippers, I still check weights.

I also don't use them for loads nearing maximums.

The one I use for 3031 in my .300 Savage loads throws a tad light and I trickle the rest...as I weigh all my .300 Savage loads.

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I've made several of these for different loads. They're great, and easy to make to size if you have access to a lathe. I use steel handles from coat hanger wire soldered into a hole drilled into the thick base of the shell. Label each with a sharpie.
Lathe, belt sander, grinder, case trimmer... Found better balance with handle silver soldered to side near top.
My lee dippers were new in the mid seventies... still have / use them.
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I do. Even using dippers, I still check weights.

I also don't use them for loads nearing maximums.

The one I use for 3031 in my .300 Savage loads throws a tad light and I trickle the rest...as I weigh all my .300 Savage loads.

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So how much variation from just the dipper?
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Here it is 2017 .... over 16 years into the new millennium and we have all sorts of high tech equipment to help us produce high quality ammo. State of the art for measuring precise powder charges comes from a RCBS Chargemaster or a similar brand where powder is dispensed until digital scale reaches the desired weight then shuts off. In the last millennium, we had quite a few different brands of mechanical powder measures .... most of which were quite accurate. Going back to pre-WWII, most reloaders used dippers because they couldn't afford a decent scale or powder measure. Such was my case when I first started to reload .... I couldn't afford to pay attention, let alone spend money on something that wasn't an absolute necessity. I can't argue .... all of these powder measuring techniques work .... but some work much better than others. What I can say is .... I will never go backwards in technology and use dippers, especially without a decent scale to confirm powder weights. I can see using a dipper in conjunction with a decent powder scale and a trickler ... pretty slow but very accurate.
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Dipper use is only as sloppy as the dipee. A dipper is a very simple tool with no moving parts so the variations solely depend on the user. When I was reloading a lot of .38 Specials I could hold .1 grain of W231, charge to charge, after a "warm up period". Lots of practice being consistent. All one has to do is develop a method and be as consistent, as closely as possible each charge.

Besides my Lee Dipper set, I have mebbe a dozen home made "custom" dippers each calibrated for a specific powder charge, and always used in conjunction with a beam scale, mostly when working up loads and weighing every charge...
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Here it is 2017 .... over 16 years into the new millennium and we have all sorts of high tech equipment to help us produce high quality ammo. State of the art for measuring precise powder charges comes from a RCBS Chargemaster or a similar brand where powder is dispensed until digital scale reaches the desired weight then shuts off. In the last millennium, we had quite a few different brands of mechanical powder measures .... most of which were quite accurate. Going back to pre-WWII, most reloaders used dippers because they couldn't afford a decent scale or powder measure. Such was my case when I first started to reload .... I couldn't afford to pay attention, let alone spend money on something that wasn't an absolute necessity. I can't argue .... all of these powder measuring techniques work .... but some work much better than others. What I can say is .... I will never go backwards in technology and use dippers, especially without a decent scale to confirm powder weights. I can see using a dipper in conjunction with a decent powder scale and a trickler ... pretty slow but very accurate.
I use my scale to verify powder charges from my dippers and RCBS powder measure. Just a couple of light taps on the side levels the charge off. I have never used a dipper for anything even approaching max loads and don't really have a need for max loads. Some people have to have all the latest things and that is just fine. I have thought about getting a measure like you write about and should look into it. Just wondering... how well does that type of measure work with bulky powders like Unique?
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