f> Cast bullets-Lee factory crimp vs regular - Ruger Forum

Ruger Forum

Cast bullets-Lee factory crimp vs regular

This is a discussion on Cast bullets-Lee factory crimp vs regular within the Reloading forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Hi guys, for cast bullets, like the lyman 429244, do you guys use the Lee Factory Crimp dies or the regular die that comes with ...


Go Back   Ruger Forum > Firearm Forum > Reloading

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

Old February 6th, 2017, 11:35 AM   #1
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: St Petersburg
Posts: 83
Gehlsurf is on a distinguished road
Cast bullets-Lee factory crimp vs regular

Hi guys, for cast bullets, like the lyman 429244, do you guys use the Lee Factory Crimp dies or the regular die that comes with the set? Or is it a see what your gun likes sort of thing?

Currently I use the Lee Factory Crimp for plate bullets, and have had good results, I say this because plated are soft, just like cast.



Gehlsurf is offline  
Advertisements
Old February 6th, 2017, 01:26 PM   #2
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Missouri
Posts: 402
Mark204 is on a distinguished road
I'm not a big fan of anything stamped "LEE", probably because when I started reloading most of Lee's equipment was junk. I'm sure they are better now, but first impression last a lifetime, so no I don't use it.

I use the die that's in the set. In 27 years I've never had a problem.



Here Kitty Kitty
Mark204 is offline  
Old February 6th, 2017, 03:11 PM   #3
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Southern Nevada
Posts: 1,459
Loose Noose is on a distinguished road
As Mark 204, stated up until recently I've never been a big fan of the Lee crimp die, but when I started loading for the British .303, and the Krag30-40 I noticed using a very light crimp (using the Lee Crimp Die) did improve the accuracy tremendously, however, like you stated different strokes for different folks. I'm not sure what you are reloading there or did I miss something?
Loose Noose is offline  
 
Old February 6th, 2017, 03:23 PM   #4
Jaded James
 
Jtiv19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 900
Jtiv19 is on a distinguished road
I've used nothing but Lee products since I started reloading only a few short years ago. I have the deluxe turret press and like the crimp die since it separates the bullet seating and then the crimp. Used them for both cast and jacketed bullets without issue. I do have a box of Berry's plated without a crimp groove that I have been hesitant to do anything with.
Jtiv19 is offline  
Old February 6th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #5
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: St Petersburg
Posts: 83
Gehlsurf is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the suggestions, I only have Lee because either was for me to get started, maybe eventually I'll get another setup. I'm loading 44 magnumber cast.

Why the hesitation on the Berry's? Ive loaded some of those plated bullets without issue, just not past 1000 fps. They like a light crimp, as the plated is very soft. They make great pinker rounds or subsonic rounds
Gehlsurf is offline  
Old February 6th, 2017, 04:05 PM   #6
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: SE Louisiana
Posts: 157
Bayou52 is on a distinguished road
Short answer -

If the handload calls for a crimp, I apply it with a Lee FCD.

These dies just plain work and work well. For me, at least...
Bayou52 is offline  
Old February 6th, 2017, 04:28 PM   #7
g17
 
g17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: KY
Posts: 1,128
g17 is on a distinguished road
I use the Lee factory crimp die most of the time for everything I reload for, half setting for regular and full for magnums. Now days I shoot mostly bullets I cast and use it for those as well. There is some talk about the sleeve sizing down a lead bullet but I've not had any issues. For that .44, I'd put a gas check on it and give it a full crimp.
g17 is offline  
Old February 6th, 2017, 04:37 PM   #8
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 43
Bookworm is on a distinguished road
I've used Lee dies since I started reloading, in the late 1980s - close to 30 years.

I use the seat/crimp die that comes with the 3-die set. Never a problem crimping 44 Mag, 357 Mag, 38 Spl, or even a taper-crimp as on the 9mm.

I load almost all cast, although lately some Berry's plated in 9mm.


I don't know why others seem to have problems.
Bookworm is offline  
Old February 6th, 2017, 05:42 PM   #9
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Petroplex, Texas
Posts: 503
WTSANDSTORM will become famous soon enough
I started with a single-stage Lee press kit several years ago, simply because I could afford it. I kept the press, and truly like to make a run for a couple of hours on the thing. My combinations for .38 and .44 are more accurate, in general, than any factory loads I have shot. I do simple cast bullets, with a few Hornady XTRs for experiment. My Starline Brass just keeps on doing what's best. (I've never worn one of them out.) This is one of my most rewarding hobbies.

I've bought the Lee crimp dies for my collection, and I use them. I have had good service out of the three-die sets, but just like the crimp die because I can actually see the medium roll, to be sure.

I think Lee spends their real money on the press, and dies, and skrimps on the plastic pieces to keep the price in line. I haven't broken anything, or wished for something else. I have abandoned the powder measure in favor of the dippers because of wildly irregular drops of the Unique, which I mostly use. I made my own trickler out of some PVC and brass tubing. It works very well, when I need to change charge loads.
WTSANDSTORM is offline  
Old February 7th, 2017, 06:31 AM   #10
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Alabama
Posts: 143
lolbell is on a distinguished road
Use the Lee FCD. It works and works well. When adjusted properly it applies a crimp equal to other crimp dies that cost much, much more.
lolbell is offline  
Old February 7th, 2017, 09:22 AM   #11
mdi
 
mdi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orygun
Posts: 191
mdi is on a distinguished road
Well, anytime Lee is mentioned the Lee Haters crawl out. I have been reloading off and on since 1969 and used most of the "modern" reloading tools and come to the conclusion the 99.9% of reloading is the nut behind the lever. I have used Lee tools from the beginning along with some more "sophisticated" equipment and as long as I do my part, the ammo comes out safe, accurate, and consistent with Lee, RCBS, Dillon or Redding equipment.

All that being said, I do not like Lee's FCD for handguns. The idea may be good, but totally unnecessary if one knows how to adjust their dies, and detrimental to cast bullet shooting. My experience with a .44 cal Lee FCD was the die ruined my carefully sized 429244 and 429421 cast bullets. For my RSBH I used .431" bullet which fit the cylinder throats perfectly and I got good accuracy with no leading. (Same for my S&W 629 and Dan Wesson 44H)After I used the FCD my bullets were swaged down to .428"-.429". Result, poor accuracy and some leading. My FCD now resides in a landfill somewhere in So. Oregon...

Last edited by mdi; February 7th, 2017 at 09:24 AM.
mdi is offline  
Old February 7th, 2017, 10:54 AM   #12
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 712
Walkingwolf is a jewel in the roughWalkingwolf is a jewel in the roughWalkingwolf is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayou52 View Post
Short answer -

If the handload calls for a crimp, I apply it with a Lee FCD.

These dies just plain work and work well. For me, at least...
Lee dies have worked for me also. No complaints.
Walkingwolf is offline  
Old February 7th, 2017, 12:15 PM   #13
 
gunman42782's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: KY, USA.
Posts: 3,070
gunman42782 is on a distinguished road

Awards Showcase

Been reloading for 30 years now, and have used nothing but Lee dies, with perfect satisfaction.
gunman42782 is offline  
Old February 7th, 2017, 01:08 PM   #14
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: PA
Posts: 305
GONRA is on a distinguished road
GONRA's Lee FCD's sure are handy as a "finishup step"
to remove "residual bell mouthing" - particularly in case boolit loads.
GONRA is offline  
Old February 7th, 2017, 09:05 PM   #15
 
bkRuger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: South Florida
Posts: 371
bkRuger is on a distinguished road
I'm using the LEE FCD for cast bullets as well. They are very good crimping dies.
bkRuger is offline  
Reply

  Ruger Forum > Firearm Forum > Reloading

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Ruger Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lee Factory Crimp Die fmrmbmlm Reloading 30 February 9th, 2015 05:45 AM
Help with Lee Factory Crimp Die Hunter49 Reloading 29 September 25th, 2014 09:34 AM
Lee factory crimp die (rifle) scooter.maclusky Reloading 3 August 1st, 2013 04:08 PM
Fix your Lee Factory Crimp Die. Charlie Two Tracks Reloading 21 April 16th, 2011 03:43 PM

Top Gun Sites Top Sites List
Powered by vBulletin 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
Copyright © 2006 - 2017 Ruger Forum. All rights reserved.
Ruger Forum is a Ruger Firearms enthusiast's forum, but it is in no way affiliated with, nor does it represent Sturm Ruger & Company Inc. of Southport, CT.