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Old January 31st, 2017, 04:44 PM   #1
 
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Any pan lubers out there?

Looking for advice on pan lubing. I'm shooting my Buffalo Classic in 45-70 more and have always pan lubed my bullets. To be honest, it's a pain! My latest bullets are Missouri Bullet Co.405 grainers. I melt the hard blue wax off and replace with White Label lube co. 50/50 bees wax. The lube performs nicely. I have a hollow tube type cutter sized in 45-70 that I use to push each bullet through when the lube hardens after heating.
Lube ends up all over the bullet and then gums the dies up.
Any advice from more experienced pan lubers out there?



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Old January 31st, 2017, 05:21 PM   #2
 
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I discovered silicone spray... Put em in a cake pan... spray it on... roll it around and size em up.

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I started with pan lubing and Alox, and didn't like the gummy bullet noses and gunked-up loading die seating plugs. I now brush the Alox on just around the lube grooves on the bullets.
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I do have plenty of tumble lube so I may load up a batch and see how it performs. I was not sure if tumbling would suffice.
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Hunter49: In all my years, I've never heard of your technique. I've used a reloading spray, lately. I put a small sponge snugly in a jar lid to hold it. Spray a little coating on the sponge, do a quick roll of the bullet and brass, and you are done. I can't imagine needing more lube than that in any situation. It is slightly oily, and works smoothly every time. I'm not the expert, but I know what seems to work.
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For bullet lubing, I pan lube. I have been pretty successful with pan lubing and Lee push through sizers so I have seen no need for a lubersizer with dies, nose punches, etc., for every bullet I size. Tumble lubing will still produce sticky bullets and dies, especially if too much lube is used, so that's no help there. I have found that when I pan lube if I use a lube a bit harder it will help reduce gummed dies. I use an oven to heat the lube and bullets together, which makes the lube stick to the bullet better and remove the bullets from the cake with a "cookie cutter" (my SS tubing reamed to mebbe .005" larger than bullet diameter). If you choose to pan lube, some lube will get transferred to the other dies, but that is not a problem for me (I routinely soak my dies in a mix of Kroil and mineral spirits so they don't get gunked up). How much lube is transferred to the dies is directly related to how much lube is on the OD of the bullet prior to sizing...
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For bullet lubing, I pan lube. I have been pretty successful with pan lubing and Lee push through sizers so I have seen no need for a lubersizer with dies, nose punches, etc., for every bullet I size. Tumble lubing will still produce sticky bullets and dies, especially if too much lube is used, so that's no help there. I have found that when I pan lube if I use a lube a bit harder it will help reduce gummed dies. I use an oven to heat the lube and bullets together, which makes the lube stick to the bullet better and remove the bullets from the cake with a "cookie cutter" (my SS tubing reamed to mebbe .005" larger than bullet diameter). If you choose to pan lube, some lube will get transferred to the other dies, but that is not a problem for me (I routinely soak my dies in a mix of Kroil and mineral spirits so they don't get gunked up). How much lube is transferred to the dies is directly related to how much lube is on the OD of the bullet prior to sizing...
Sounds good. I also use a "cookie cutter" I picked up on ebay. Timing is everything I've learned when extracting the bullet from the hardened "cake". If I try to take the bullets out too soon the lube is a mess, wait too long and the cake is hard and the bullets don't want to come out.
It might just be the way it is I guess!
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Try this. Leave the commercial lube on the bullets. Get some 45-45-10 tumble lube from White Label. Either tumble lube the bullets or, I take my finger and smear a thin coat of the 45-45-10 on them. These will dry hard and are not tacky. With propper bullet size and pressure, this has eliminated all of my leading issues. I was ready to give up on lead bullets before I started doing this. When dry, it is hard to see that there is any coating on the bullet.
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Try this. Leave the commercial lube on the bullets. Get some 45-45-10 tumble lube from White Label. Either tumble lube the bullets or, I take my finger and smear a thin coat of the 45-45-10 on them. These will dry hard and are not tacky. With propper bullet size and pressure, this has eliminated all of my leading issues. I was ready to give up on lead bullets before I started doing this. When dry, it is hard to see that there is any coating on the bullet.
Awesome, I have a big jug of tumble lube from them. I'll give it a whirl.
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Try this. Leave the commercial lube on the bullets. Get some 45-45-10 tumble lube from White Label. Either tumble lube the bullets or, I take my finger and smear a thin coat of the 45-45-10 on them. These will dry hard and are not tacky. With propper bullet size and pressure, this has eliminated all of my leading issues. I was ready to give up on lead bullets before I started doing this. When dry, it is hard to see that there is any coating on the bullet.
This DOES work, just be sure to let them dry thoroughly!
I do this to all commercially cast and lubed bullets, the 45-45-10 is good stuff.
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Try this. Leave the commercial lube on the bullets. Get some 45-45-10 tumble lube from White Label. Either tumble lube the bullets or, I take my finger and smear a thin coat of the 45-45-10 on them. These will dry hard and are not tacky. With propper bullet size and pressure, this has eliminated all of my leading issues. I was ready to give up on lead bullets before I started doing this. When dry, it is hard to see that there is any coating on the bullet.
That works if one is using commercial cast bullets. However I use this on my nekkid home cast bullets too...

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I use White Label 2500 on my heavy loads for rifle or handgun.
For slower, lighter loads like light .45 Colt, .357, .44mag and .45acp, I like SPG.
It is a little more expensive, and a penny saved is a penny earned, but I get very good results. I have also used their carnuba red and it works well, but I like SPG better.

I have two Lyman lube sizers, one has a heater, so I keep SPG in one and 2500 in the other.

I don't pan lube, I tried it once back in the '70's and decided that it was way too much hassle for me.
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I pan lube Lyman 457-125's in small 25 count batches, place in the fridge until the lube pulls away from the edge of the pan, then push them out with my thumb, my lube recipe is a modified Emmerts with lanolin added, trick is not too over crowd the pan and they will pop out without loosing any lube from the grooves.

I shoot mine from a Buff' Classic with 65 grs Goex and cork wad.

I would like to try dip lubing with Lee Liquid Alox heated in a small croc pot, a method used by Ranch Dog.

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Sounds like a lot of good suggestions. I'll play around with some other methods and see how it goes.
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I use bacon grease and put it on the grill for an hour or two... Wrong pan....
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