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Old May 23rd, 2010, 01:36 PM   #1
 
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H110 Powder help?

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Need help with reloading using H110 powder. Bought 2 pounds of brand new powder yesterday at my local shop, opened it up and it has a odor to it. I wouldn't say it has ammonia type odor. But it has an odor. Is this okay to use?

Also, do you have to use a magnum primer with this powder like the book says? Or can I just use a regular primer?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. Opened both bottles of powder and they both have identical odor. Also, bottles are only filled half way?



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Old May 23rd, 2010, 02:06 PM   #2
 
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If it's a 'solvent' type odor that's normal. It kinda smells flamable in a way.
I only use mag primers with it in .357 & .44. I'm always within a grain or so of max according to the charts. Not much wiggle room with this powder.
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Yes I would say it has an odor that reminds me of some kind of solvent. Guess I'm okay there then. And yeah, I see that in the book there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room with this powder. Either 21 grains, as a start load or 22 as an max.

The reason I ask about the magnum primers, is because they are vertually impossible to find here. But regular primers can be had if needed. I only have 500 CCI magnums left, and was wondering if it would be alright to use them for a 357 load.

Thanks for the response. Anyone else use this powder? Any suggestions?
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those primers are fine and that powder does smell but burns clean 21 grns will be a stout load for a 110 gr bullet around 2100 fps
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Thanks Curt mini. appreciate the info. Took the bullets out today and was surprised at the power of this H110. Excellent stuff for sure. Used 100 of my CCI primers and they worked great. I had one fail to fire. Had a dent in the primer. But took three tries before the bullet fired. Guess third times a charm.

I was hoping I could use regular primers in the future with h110. Can't find these stupid magnums to save a life. I hope the bullet will fire with regulars and not be an issue.

Anyone ever try it? and did it give you any pressure issues such as a stuck bullet in the barrel?
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76 people viewed this topic. But only 2 people respond?

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I personally have no idea. I would like to know also.
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H110/W296 is excellent powder in .357 and .44 mags when used within it's parameters. It is a hard powder to ignite. Many claim they can get by with regular primers, but Hodgdon(and most loading manuals) strongly recommend the use of Magnum primers to assure ignition and to prevent squibs. I always use magnum primers and if they aren't available, I use H4227 or 2400 powders instead for magnum loads. H110/W296 likes a consistent heavy crimp for consistent ignition and best accuracy.
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I have ONLY used magnum small primers with H110 as that is all that is recommended for .357. With my 45 Colt I can use the large Winchester primers with H110 as they say they are for magnum or standard loads.
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I have used Winchester large pistol primers (for standard or magnum loads) with H110 a lot without problems. Be sure and do not reduce loads with H110.
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Be sure and do not reduce loads with H110.
Its understood that going below minimum recommended loads with H110/W296 can cause very dangerous pressure spikes.
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THANK YOU ALL!

Thats what I was wanting to know. We have a source about 50 miles away for primers. But when this dude gets CCI magnums, he wants $65 a thousand for them. Yeah, I kinda buckled once and bought them from him. Though I wasn't happy about it. But whatcha gonna do when you need them?

Stonecold, I really thought the book was wrong when I see a load written that has a starting load of 21 grains, and a max load of 22 ? Just didn't look right to me at first. But everywhere I checked it says the same thing. So it must be accurate. There's no play room at all with this stuff. It filled up the entire 357 brass almost to the top with 22 grains. I was concerned the bullet wasn't going to fit in there. (I'm new to reloading if you can't tell.)

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H-110 has the longest shelf life of the Hodgdon line , I found a can & called (smelled different than my present lot) was informed that H-110 has a normal life of 60+ yrs. if kept in stable enviroment.

Now for the primer ?? you can use SP in upper temps , the problem igniteing H-110 worsens as temp drops !

If I developed loads in cold weather I WOULD NOT shoot em in the summertime!!!

I`m not gonna print here what we found out `bout H-110 but I will say this we had a Ruger Redhawk to shoot it out of !!!

That was in my younger days though & now reserve Magnum loads to a few practice sessions & hunting, the rest is a mild mid load.

I also have never shot a bullet liter than 140 gr.

If ya get the chance shoot ya load in low light !!!

How fast ya bullets going ???
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Word on the street (from people who have experience with it) is that H110/W296 likes it tight and hot. Heavy bullets, compressed loads, tight crimps, and magnum primers. If you want or need anything less, use something else. Apparently the two problems that arise are squibbing, which may leave a barrel obstructing the bore for the next shot, or (not sure if I'm describing this correctly, but it should paint the picture) a partial fizzle, followed by a secondary ignition which can cause a brief spike in pressure, kind of like a fuel/air explosion. Any chemist/reloader types who want to confirm/deny/explain this better feel free to have at it. Bottom line tho, is don't underload, undercrimp, or underprime. It might be a KB waiting to happen.
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I have been using H-110 for a while now in my .45 Colt and they have yet to see a magnum primer, or even a Winchester WLP. All standard Remington primers. Never had one fail to ignite. Always have the expected velocity. Of course, I'm in North Alabama, so I'm not trying to light these off in zero degree temps. I've heard the folks in colder climates have to use a magnum primer to get consistent ignition.
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