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Old January 24th, 2017, 05:32 AM   #16
 
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So then too much powder can certainly be an issue when it comes to insurance?



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I store my powders in a thick wooden cabinet indoors.
There are guidelines for storing different volumes of powder. Can't remember where, the Silver Alert thing.

I built a wooden storage box on wheels, it has two levels and fits under my bench. The ends are 2X12, the sides are double 3/4" plywood. Additional storage is in a fire resistant storage area under the stairs. An inside layer of 1/2" plywood, an outer layer of 1/2" plywood and 3/8" sheet rock. My inventory/reserve is pretty much at the limit for residential, with several lbs of 4F/3F/2F black included. Fires burn up, all of mine is at the lowest point in the house. I'm far more concerned with fire than powder life.

My basement shop has no moisture problems as I sealed the walls and floors with Drylock and paint.
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Virtually all fire departments go by the NFPA 495 requirements, Chapter 14, as follows (2006 edition):

14.3.7.1 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 9.1 kg (20 lb) shall be permitted to be stored in original containers in residences.

14.3.7.2 Quantities exceeding 9.1 kg (20 lb), but not exceeding 22.7 kg (50 lb), shall be permitted to be stored in residences where kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least 25.4 mm (1 in.) nominal thickness.

14.3.8 Not more than 22.7 kg (50 lb) of smokeless propellants, in containers of a 0.45 kg (1 lb) maximum capacity, shall be displayed in commercial establishments.

By the way, a one inch nominal thickness is your basic 1x12 pine board (or any 1x size pine).

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Is there an off-the-shelf wooden box solution that I could use? I suck at woodwork so that's not even an option to make.
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Is there an off-the-shelf wooden box solution that I could use? I suck at woodwork so that's not even an option to make.
Go to your local dealer and ask for a shipping crate for powder. Order a pine box off the internet. Ask a local woodworker. Stop by a building site and see if one of their carpenters will knock one together. Buy a hammer, nails and the precut lumber at your local home improvement store. Look in your local want ads for a handyman. Ask at your church. Watch a YouTube video. Ask your neighbor.

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I keep mine on a shelf above and to the side of my reloading bench. It's just a tad higher than the top of my head (I'm 5'8") so I think it's safe to say it's consistent with the temperature of the rest of the room.

Interesting question though....
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kf6zpl, Another thing that has not been mentioned is "Insurance". Your home owners or renters insurance may impose restrictions on how much powder you can store in your home and dictate how it is stored. Some other insurance companies want to sell you a "rider policy" for the increased risk involved with storing gunpowder. Most people just ignore these insurance restrictions .... until there is a claim filed for a fire. All of a sudden, you may find your insurance policy is all but worthless because you didn't declare powder storage. A quick check with your insurance agent is a not a bad idea.
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I have read many very informative responses on several sites about bulk powder storage but have never saw any explanation of how some of the bigger suppliers can be in compliance when their shelves are packed with powder well in excess of 50 pounds. Anyone know???
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Virtually all fire departments go by the NFPA 495 requirements, Chapter 14, as follows (2006 edition):
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Is there an off-the-shelf wooden box solution that I could use? I suck at woodwork so that's not even an option to make.
Well, you don't need to be an artist or cabinet maker, but a decent saw and a square helps.
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tarsam, Usually the local fire marshal or the insurance carrier will tell the retail store how much powder they can put on their shelves. Some things that matter are .... a good fire sprinkler system and keeping other flammables at a distance. When smokeless powder is in the factory container and gets ignited, it will burn but it will not explode. More jars of powder just means it will burn longer. When powder is contained in a non-approved sealed container such as a GI metal ammo can, it will indeed explode. Open storage on a top shelf is the least dangerous.
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Thank you for a very informative answer to something I've wondered about. The way the shelves looked for the past few years I thought this would never be an issue again. Glad I was wrong.
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I have read many very informative responses on several sites about bulk powder storage but have never saw any explanation of how some of the bigger suppliers can be in compliance when their shelves are packed with powder well in excess of 50 pounds. Anyone know???
Commercial locations have different restrictions from residences. It really is that simple.

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