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Old December 18th, 2016, 04:19 AM   #1
 
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Reloading for your ar

Hey all
Just curious as to what some of you are loading, favorite bullet weight and powder ?
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Old December 18th, 2016, 04:58 AM   #2
 
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I have had good results with BLC2, Varget, and AR Comp with BLC2 a favorite with 55 grain Hornady soft points. Bullet weight should be determined by your rifle's twist rate.
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had good luck with cfe 223 and hornady 55gr fmj bt done and shot about 1500
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First off I recommend a small base sizer die for use with the ar rifles for flawless feeding everytime. Rcbs, and Redding have good small base sizers, I have both.

As for bullets I reload thousands of rounds for ar platforms every year, .223, 25-45, 6.5 grendel, 6.8spc, 9mm etc. Here is what I use for the .223 as my mainstays.

I keep all my rounds under 2.260" and use a lee factory crimp die, anything over that and they will not fit in an ar magazine.

Plinking rounds 55 grain fmj/wc extreme bullets, very cost effective, and great accuracy.

Varmint rounds hornady 40 grain vmax with h335 powder and cci small mag primer, sub moa in the mini 14 target model , a great round in the ar as well.

Match round for the 1n9 twist 16" 52 grain sierra hpbt with benchmark, or varget std cci small rifle primer.

My 1n8 twist rifles I use the 75 grain hornady match hpbt with h4895 and standard cci small rifle primer, also sub moa in my dcm, pistol, and 1n9 twist 24" dpms heavy. I have found the 77 grain sierra hpbt produces nearly identical results, however the hornady bullets are a bit cheaper in price, but not quality.

Other powders i have used are cfe 223, w748, blc2, Imr 3031, benchmark. All have worked well.

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Just finished testing with Nosler 64gr. Solid Base .224 bullet in Winchester and Remington cases with multiple powders and had best results(accuracy with high velocity) with IMR 4064 in Winchester cases with groups of an inch at a hundred. Reloder 15 and IMR 3031 weren't far behind. S&B(Sellier & Bellot) SR Primers used for all loads. This testing was done for 3 AR rifles all with 1 in 8 twist. Had to keep OAL to 2.170 for reliable chambering. Anything longer would not fully chamber as the rifling comes in contact with bullet ogive.Your results may vary.
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55 gr FMJ, Hodgdon CFE-223, CCI 400 primer. I always use small base dies, and trim cases before loading. I also gauge my loaded rds in a Lyman gauge.
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Has anyone else noticed a smell like cat urine after shooting CFE223?

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Has anyone else noticed a smell like cat urine ?
I'm thinking,,,

Nah, couldn't be

For just shooting away, pulled bullets have a nod.

Trying to impress buddies at the range, 65gr Sierra BTSP is less expensive than the target/match stuff. BL-C2, W748, AA2230, and a dozen others work about the same.

A small base die is essential, especially with once fired or pick up brass.
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...For just shooting away, pulled bullets have a nod...

...A small base die is essential, especially with once fired or pick up brass.
If I'm going through the effort to handload, I want good quality bullets. From what I've found, for the price of 'pulls', you can get bulk or blem name-brand target quality bullets in the 52-55 gr range that work great out to at least 200 yds.

I wouldn't say a small base die is 'essential'. I had a Windham Weaponry AR-15 for a bit, and now have a 583-series Mini 14 Ranch Rifle. Using once-fired Winchester .223 cases, I have had no chambering issues using a Lee Pacesetter regular .223 die set. Some chambers are 'tighter', though. I think a good thing to do is to make a Cerrosafe cast of your chamber and get the specs before purchasing a die set.
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I use BL-C (2) the most since it's always on the shelf wherever I go. I now have a good supply of CFE-223 and have used it in the past with great results.
I have used TAC, Varget, H335 and a few others with great results.

The most common bullet I use is a 55gr Vmax or 55gr Blitz king. They are cheap enough I can use them for everything I do with an AR.

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Powders: TAC, Varget, CFE-223
Bullets: Hornady 55 Grain Soft Point in bulk
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GONRA seconds the "RCBS Small Base Die" suggestions.

Good idea to use a Nice Big Robust Press and gauge each loaded round with a L. E. Wilson case gauge to make sure ammo chambers FREELY.

Also, make SURE to use "slamfire proof" primers: CCI mlitary or Remigton 7 1/2 small rifle MAGNUMS.

Reloading for semiautos has different rules than single shots. You can't just "neck size" fired cases, etc. like bolt actions....

In some semiautos, cannot use Ball Powders that can leave an unfired ball in the chamber - jam the next chambered case.
(HOWA AR-180's have tight chambers and do this. Extruded powders ONLY!)
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?..Also, make SURE to use "slamfire proof" primers: CCI mlitary or Remigton 7 1/2 small rifle MAGNUMS...
One does not have to use the (expensive) CCI 'military' primers, nor should one load magnum primers for a published load that does not call for magnum primers.

Many handloaders (including me) safely and successfully use regular small and large rifle primers in their semi-auto rifles (my M1 Garand, Mini 14, and previously-owned AR-15). Proper seating of the primer and regular cleaning/maintenance of the rifle assures that a 'slam fire' will not occur.
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Yeah, BLC-2 and 55gr and my own brass.
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Old December 22nd, 2016, 05:57 PM   #15
 
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Both of my AR's are 1 in 8" twist and have provided good to excellent results with 40 gr bullets (V-Max, Ballistic Tip, Varmageddon Tipped, Sierra HP,) 50 gr bullets (V-Max, Ballistic Tips, Hornady SP haven't tried the Speer TNT yet, but have 900 or so on hand),
52 gr Nosler Custom Competition HPBT, 55 gr (Hornady SP, V-Max, Ballistic Tips, Varmageddon Tipped and HP, Speer SP) 60 gr Hornady V-Max, 62 gr Varmageddon HP, 68 gr Hornady HPBT, 69 gr and 77 gr Nosler Custom Competition HPBT,. All loaded around 2.24 oal, with CCI-400 and 450, Wolf 223, S&B SR, Winchester Small Rifle, Federal 205, and Remington 7 1/2. Powders: Accurate 2015, 2200, 2230, Hodgdon H-335, Varget, H-4985, IMR-8028XBR, Ramshot Tac.
My preferred loads for the AR's consist of the 40 gr bullets with 27.5 gr Ramshot TAC, Wolf 223 primers and LC, PMC or Federal cases
50 gr bullets with 26.0 gr Ramshot TAC, Wolf 223 or CCI or RP 7 1/2, same cases
69 gr Nosler HPBT 24.0 gr Ramshot TAC, same primers and cases. When my last 8 lb keg of TAC runs out, I might try some other loads, but then again, I might just pick up another 8 lb keg of TAC.
I use regular Hornady or Lyman standard dies and full length size everything for the AR's. Haven't had any problems with chambering, so I haven't felt the need for the small base sizing die.
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