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Old April 11th, 2016, 11:46 AM   #1
 
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reloading for #1

Fairly new to reloading and just started reloading for my 6.5 X 55 #1

Some of my cases slide easily into chamber while others require significant pressure to push in enough to close action. All cases were once fired brass sized exactly the same.

Have had similar problems with my 45-70 in the #1



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Old April 11th, 2016, 01:45 PM   #2
 
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Did you check the resized case length. I have found that some brands needed to be trimmed .002" or more.
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Did you check the resized case length. I have found that some brands needed to be trimmed .002" or more.
Yep that's the first thing I'd check even before seating the bullet.
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I had this problem and posed this same question on a forum and discovered this is what caused my issue.
Check to make sure your sizing die is properly set and you are making a full stroke each time.
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I had a problem with my 45-70 due to the short throat in the Ruger, I had to seat the bullets past the cannelure to make the finished rounds chamber.
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wingerdt,
In testing many loads for my 6.5x55 1A, I found that my rifle preferred to have the brass full length sized (for the best accuracy). Neck sized cases required a little finger pressure to fully seat.
I'd have to check, but seem to remember that my Swede has a fairly long throat to handle the 160 gr. RN bullets. However, she shoots the 160's (jacketed or cast) or 140's into an inch or inch and a half (3 rds) with no problem.
You didn't say - are you FL sizing, or neck sizing? Also, what bullet are you using?
Let us know.

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Wingerdt,

Something is wrong with your components or process which could include yout sizing die adjustments.

If your brass is all of a proper length, AND ALL OF THE SAME BRAND AND MANUFACTURING LOT NUMBER, the problem almost has to be due to some inconsistency in the hand loading process.

Some years back, I made up a document outlining proper adjustment of full length sizing dies and have shared it with many folks on different forums who have requested the info.

Will gladly send the info to anyone that sends me a P.M. requesting the info and providing their personal "E" address. No cost or obligation.

Seldom is there a need for a "neck sizing" die, but there can be much to be gained by proper full length die adjustment. Of the three die makers who's die adjustment instructions I have read, RCBC, Hornady and lee, only Hornady by the inclusion of a "foot Note" to their instructions seemed to have a clue.

We all deal with manufacturing tolerances in firearms/firearm chambers and dies etc. etc. and because of that fact it is very likely that something other then a hard and fast adherence to the manufactures instructions may very well increase brass life and over all hand load consistency.

The only RUGER #1 I have had with a short throat, has been my #1 - 45/70. All others have had a long throat, many times allowing the bullets to be seated waaaay out.

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Any time there is a fit issue measure. Measure the cases' diameter in a few places during the reloading process (before sizing, after sizing, after trimming, after bullet seating, and after crimping if a crimp is used). You need to find out where a cartridge is too big, and when it happens. Also measure OAL and compare that to the bullet manufacturer's specs. If these don't help checking the shoulder/headspace is next...
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If you're using a single stage or turret press .make sure you're getting a.good.cam over.
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Always and forever, size brass fired in YOUR chamber and sized in YOUR dies, the minimum amount possible that will allow for that brass to again smoothly re - chamber in YOUR chamber.

Many times, following the die manufactures instructions to set the die low enough for the press ram to cam over center leads to over sizing.

ONLY do this if it is the only way to get your brass sized enough for re-chambering.

IF your chamber is on the small side of manufacturing tolerances, there is the possibility that you will need a undersized sizing die to complete the process.

This doesn't happen often, but does happen.

If that is your situation, in the case of RCBS, contact them and you will likely be instructed to return you sizing die along with a few cases fired in YOUR chamber but NOT sized and they will return a sizing die to you that will make the process possible.

As said, doesn't happen often, I have had it happen once in my years of hand loading, but RCBS took care of the problem for me.

But, as said in the first lines of this post, always and forever size brass the minimum possible for your chamber and die combination.

This will many times mean that proper sizing happens with the sizing die not even touching the ram in it's top most position.

AS said in an earlier post, I have a document - free for the asking - that outlines proper full length die adjustment, even touching on the possible need to have the manufacture supply you with an undersize die, and explains the reasons - manufacturing tolerances - Why their set up instructions may well not allow for optimum brass life due to over sizing/over working of the fired brass.

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