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Old April 1st, 2017, 06:07 AM   #1
 
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Range Report -- New CZ Kadet 2 with CZ75B

Well, after Buds would not ship a Kadet kit to California (misunderstanding by them of the laws here) it was Grab A Gun to the rescue, and almost $50 less money too! The kit arrived three (3) days later, and with some trepidation I fitted it to the CZ75B (40 S&W) lower frame. I am happy to report that it fitted perfectly (and tightly!). I used the stock slide stop although the kit comes with two slide stops marked ".22LR". I couldn't see any real difference between these. A subject for more examination on another day.

My first impression is that the Kadet kit mated to the CZ75B frame is a really, really nice .22LR rig. All-steel construction, adjustable rear sight, a three-dot sight (which I really like) -- it really leaves nothing to be desired in terms of fit and finish. In no way does this look like it has been "Frankensteined" ... if CZ sold these as a separate stand-alone gun (do they?) I think that they would sell a lot of them.

Here is a pic.


I got the gun to the range with a box of "Browning Performance Rimfire" .22LR ammo, which is essentially bulk ammo, lead round nosed, 1255 FPS velocity 40 grain ammo. I have found that it runs great in my Ruger Mark III pistols. Well, it ran great in the CZ Kadet as well. Out of 200 rounds I had zero feeding or function issues excepting one round which failed to fire on the first strike, but which fired fine on the second double action strike. Given that the frame of the gun has had a trigger job, I worried about a light strike issue. I had none.

The gun was almost zeroed at the factory; I moved the groups slightly (one click) up, and two clicks to the right, and that was it.

The slide did not lock back after the last round in the magazine. Not sure if this is a characteristic of the Kadet or whether I maybe need to use one of the two supplied slide stops. Experimentation is obviously in order.

Accuracy and precision were OK. I was not having one of my best days; probably because I was focused more on making sure the gun functioned than on my marksmanship. Here is my last target of the day, shot at 10 yards.



Obviously I need to work on my marksmanship. My groups improved throughout the relatively short range session.

Anyway, I am quite pleased with this setup! Hope someone enjoys this range report. I had been curious about the Kadet kit for a long time; so I hope a few questions are answered here.



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Looks great I didn't know about the Kadet thanks for sharing
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Looks great I didn't know about the Kadet thanks for sharing
Yes, around $400 and you can convert a CZ 75/85 (40 or 9mm) into a superlative 22lr pistol. Comes with two magazines.
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I have been eyeballing the recently released Kadet for the P09 I have, looks like an excellent way to add a 22 pistol to my collection and practice with my pistol cheaply.
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Well, after Buds would not ship a Kadet kit to California (misunderstanding by them of the laws here) it was Grab A Gun to the rescue, and almost $50 less money too! The kit arrived three (3) days later, and with some trepidation I fitted it to the CZ75B (40 S&W) lower frame. I am happy to report that it fitted perfectly (and tightly!). I used the stock slide stop although the kit comes with two slide stops marked ".22LR". I couldn't see any real difference between these. A subject for more examination on another day.

My first impression is that the Kadet kit mated to the CZ75B frame is a really, really nice .22LR rig. All-steel construction, adjustable rear sight, a three-dot sight (which I really like) -- it really leaves nothing to be desired in terms of fit and finish. In no way does this look like it has been "Frankensteined" ... if CZ sold these as a separate stand-alone gun (do they?) I think that they would sell a lot of them.
They discontinued the dedicated Kadet pistol a few years ago. I believe that was around the same time they launched the Kadet II to be compatible with the 75BΩ

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I got the gun to the range with a box of "Browning Performance Rimfire" .22LR ammo, which is essentially bulk ammo, lead round nosed, 1255 FPS velocity 40 grain ammo. I have found that it runs great in my Ruger Mark III pistols. Well, it ran great in the CZ Kadet as well. Out of 200 rounds I had zero feeding or function issues excepting one round which failed to fire on the first strike, but which fired fine on the second double action strike. Given that the frame of the gun has had a trigger job, I worried about a light strike issue. I had none.
How light of a hammer spring are you running?

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The gun was almost zeroed at the factory; I moved the groups slightly (one click) up, and two clicks to the right, and that was it.

The slide did not lock back after the last round in the magazine. Not sure if this is a characteristic of the Kadet or whether I maybe need to use one of the two supplied slide stops. Experimentation is obviously in order.
Try the shorter of the two included with the Kadet (longer one is for the aluminum framed P-01)

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I have been eyeballing the recently released Kadet for the P09 I have, looks like an excellent way to add a 22 pistol to my collection and practice with my pistol cheaply.
CZ has released dedicated conversion kits for the P-07 and P-09, but they are not a similar design to the normal Kadet. They are similar to the common 1911 and Glock conversion kits with an aluminum slide.
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Thank you for the report. Please update as you discover more about this conversion.
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Congrats on the new kadet kit. Our son has one and we all love it. Works like a charm with the factory mainsping in the 75 BD.

I had gave him a CZC #13 mainspring and it had a few light primer strikes, so he put the factory spring back in his 75BD and it hasnt had a hiccup since.
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I put one of the slide stops that came with the Kadet kit in the gun in today's range outing and the slide locked back each time the magazine was empty. 100% functioning by the Kadet. I am very impressed with this setup.
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I used the stock slide stop although the kit comes with two slide stops marked ".22LR". I couldn't see any real difference between these. A subject for more examination on another day.
Did you figure out the difference between your original, and the two .22LR slide stops? Are all three different dimensions?

Edit;
Answered. I just reread posting #5.

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Redleg ... Congrats on the new conversion kit. I have been considering one for some time and your report may finally push me over the edge
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In my eyes and mind, that's some great hand gun shooting.
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Nice setup, Redleg. I didnt even know they made those.

As for the target you posted, I will take that all day long.

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UPDATE: Got 4 extra magazines and an Uplula wide-magazine .22lr loader for the Kadet. What a difference! Word of advice -- if you buy the Kadet kit, buy the Uplula loader at the same time. It is otherwise murderous to reload magazines by hand.
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UPDATE: Got 4 extra magazines and an Uplula wide-magazine .22lr loader for the Kadet. What a difference! Word of advice -- if you buy the Kadet kit, buy the Uplula loader at the same time. It is otherwise murderous to reload magazines by hand.
Not to hijack the thread, but do you use a magazine loader for your CZ as a 40 S&W?
I have a 9mm P-01 that I would like to get a loader for.
Suggestions?

Thanks, Bill

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nice. cz is an old school company in some products. nice to see an all steel full sized non 1911 pistol.
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