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Old January 15th, 2017, 06:39 PM   #1
 
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Kaboom at the range

A guy at the range today had a kaboom with his 1911. He was heading towards the office with blood running down his face. He thought his magazine had blown up. Well, it did I guess.

But what caused it was a ruptured case. The case head ended up blowing down through the mag-well. The rest of the case stayed in in the chamber. The body of the magazine stayed in the magwell, but the follower, base and spring all blew out the bottom.

Guy said he was shooting hand loads. He claimed he had loaded them "light," but that they had seemed hot when he was shooting them. Not sure what powder, or how much. Looked like 230 grain lead bullets.

Kinda scary.



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Hope he is alright.

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With a cheap scale, it's easy to double charge, if you are not very

careful. That could have been me. I had to pull two boxes of reloads.

I prefer to use two scales, in order to verify measurements, for the first

few loads.
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Thankfully he wasn't seriously hurt.
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Yikes!
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Thankfully he wasn't seriously hurt.
Just his pride and his 1911.

These reports are always a good reminder to us handloaders to stay diligent. You say he claimed he loaded them light but they felt hot. If something feels wrong STOP and reevaluate. Caution, diligence, and common sense are an absolute MUST.
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With a cheap scale, it's easy to double charge, if you are not very careful. That could have been me. I had to pull two boxes of reloads.

I prefer to use two scales, in order to verify measurements, for the first few loads.
Please excuse my ignorance, but if you know the weight of the bullet and of the casing, couldn't you just weigh the loaded round to determine the amount of powder inside?
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Please excuse my ignorance, but if you know the weight of the bullet and of the casing, couldn't you just weigh the loaded round to determine the amount of powder inside?
Cartridges cases, even of the same headstamp, may vary by several grains. So may bullets. When you are dealing with a cartridge where the powder load is from 4.0 to 8.0 gr, depending on the powder, weighing assembled cartridges will often result in 'false positives' for powder overcharges.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but if you know the weight of the bullet and of the casing, couldn't you just weigh the loaded round to determine the amount of powder inside?
Doesn't quite work like that. You see, brass cases can fluctuate in weight by several grains especially if you are using mixed brass (multiple headstamps of the same caliber). For example: if I'm loading 4.5 grains of a fast burning powder like 700X or TiteGroup in 45 ACP and weighing each loaded round using mixed brass I'd expect to see weight fluctuations of 3-5 grains just due to variations in brass weight. As you can see, this is a VERY unreliable way of detecting a double charge or over throws.
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I had a double charge once with my Blackhawk. I can tell you that once was enough. More than enough. Put the fear o' God in me.

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Man that's crazy....hope he's o.k
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that is why it is best to use if possible a powder that will not allow a double charge.
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Doesn't quite work like that. You see, brass cases can fluctuate in weight by several grains especially if you are using mixed brass (multiple headstamps of the same caliber). For example: if I'm loading 4.5 grains of a fast burning powder like 700X or TiteGroup in 45 ACP and weighing each loaded round using mixed brass I'd expect to see weight fluctuations of 3-5 grains just due to variations in brass weight. As you can see, this is a VERY unreliable way of detecting a double charge or over throws.
Just goes to prove that you are never too old to learn something. Thanks guys for the great answers to my uneducated question
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wow ... that would scare the beeeeeeeeeee geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee beeeeeeeeeeeeeees out of me iof he was next to me ...
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Seems like a powerful result for a light load but who knows with a ruptured case. Assume the bullet made it through the barrel. Glad the guy walked away.
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