Tacky

As if I needed another project, but this one was on order for 7 months before the distributor got 2 instock and inturn my dealer got this one for me. Its a PTR91KF 16" barrel. I have added the 6"rails to the aluminum hand guard and low profile MFI scope rail on top, pictures shortly. My plan is to add several upgrades overtime. So now hopefully this week its off to the range for break in and accuracy testing. I am interested in others with PTR's and what mods they have done to them.

Benemorte

I have been really really agonizing over buying one of these. I love HK products, and the PTR gives you a chance at owning a mostly HK design at such a lower price.
Only thing stopping me from buying one is that we keep going back and forth between a pistol caliber sub/carbine (think mp5) and the heavier .308 designs.

Something tells me we may end up just getting both. Looking forward to the rest of this thread.

Tacky

I know what you mean, I had a vector V5-40 pistol in 40s&w. I liked the gun it functioned great, and it was one of the last ones Vector made before stopping production. It was interchangeable with all the HK parts, but I had a close friend worry me weekly for atleast a year and finally made me an offer I couldn't refuse. I ended up getting a RRA car 9mm, 1000rds of ammo for it, the GSG5K with 1000rds for it, a Ruger LCR with crimson trace and 200 rds of 38 special, plus $250, I had to let it go for that. The only stipulation was that if he ever sold it, it had to come back to me, we agreed and the deal was done. I paid $1600 for it back in 07 I believe, and now the Turner fab. models are well over 2K. He still has this pistol and it hasn't been fired since I traded with him. Well after selling it I missed it and I have had a GSG5K which I sold, and I still own the original GSG5SD before the lawsuit they got into with HK, and now the PTR. I can say that the PTR is great. I like the prices of the magazines alot better than the $75 HK 30 rd 40 cal magazines. Its fit and finish is great as the HK91's I have fired. I had a time trying to get this rifle, everyone had the GI model, which just doesn't appeal to me, so I waited and finally my patience paid off. I also have to give 5 stars to Adam at HKPARTS.NET, they have anything you will need for a HK, PTR or any clone. I paid half the price for the PTR91, than the last HK91 my local gunshop had for sell for $2500 used, which since they banned importing them all you will get is used.

Here is my latest picture after adding the rails on the forearm, added the MFI low profile rail for the optic, and robbed one of my Ar's EoTech 512 with GG&G accucam, and lens covers. I robbed the bipod and rail mount off one of my other guns also to try out as well before possibly ordering a bipod. mount, and EoTech for it.

Benemorte

I have honestly never seen a PTR that looked so...Clean! Very nice weapon.

HappilyAddicted

I have a dealer close by who sells Vector HK Clones. What are your thoughts on an MP5 clone? I was considering the pistol version to SBR it later.

Tacky

Thanks, Glad you like it.

I hope it shoots as good as it looks. I have already reloaded several different rounds to try in it from 147fmj's to 165SST's to 168 Sierra match bthp, after i break the barrel in that is.

Tacky

The vector I had was nice, it came packed with white grease and required you to shoot atleast 200 to 250 rds to break it in. I liked the bolt hold open and bolt release it had, which the PTR91 doesn't have. I know Vector quit making them for sale shortly after I purchased mine directly from them, and Turner Fabrication I believe its called is making them from the vector parts now. I haven't gotten my hands on a Turner gun, but the vector was one of the highest quality guns in my opinion you could buy other than the real deal HK which last one I saw for sell was an SP89 never fired in the box for $4500. I have not had any dealings with the Bobcat or SW Mp5's but have heard of issues from friends with theirs. The only negative side to the sub caliber Mp5's was the parts for them were high. The 30 round magazines factory HK were $75 each, I had 6. The flash suppressor for the tri lug barrel was $125. The mount which is almost the same mount I used on my PTR was $125. I liked the Mp5 platform but didn't like the price to get it and customize it. I also owned a 1927A-1 deluxe thompson that I had planned to sbr at one time but never rationalized.

I feel that for the money if you have to have a sub caliber gun than the RRA 9mm AR is hard to beat and way less in cost. Its real accurate trust me, but if you have to scratch the Mp5 itch just be aware it will get expensive, with no gain in accuracy or function as the RRA 9mm rifle. Just my two cents, but if you buy a Mp5, you will have something you don't see everyday. I have only seen a handful of civilian owned Mp5's or clones in sub caliber(not .22) since 2005.

HappilyAddicted

Thank you very much for a very detailed answer. I have a couple of AR's (although all chambered in 5.56). I unfortunately do have the itch for an MP5. The real thing would be great but unfortunately I will have to settle for a good clone. Here is the link to the one I was looking at. Thanks again for your quick and thorough response. I really appreciate it.

Vector Arms SP89 K Pistol HK MP5 HK94

Tacky

No problem, I love talking guns, what I do know about the different ones I have had the pleasure of being around or owned, but I am no expert.

I totally understand the itch, I have a liking to stuff you don't see everyday also. I will see what I can find out about the Sp89 clone atlantic is selling. I know one of the main differences is the ribs on the cocking tube above the barrel. I believe they did this as part of the results from the lawsuit HK has had with different companies for patent infringements. Also check out HKPARTS.net, they have anything you can imagine for the SP89 and most other clones. I will see what my friend has to say about his from atlantic.

Here is a picture of the Vector I had that got away, hopefully not forever.

Benemorte

Thats the one I have looked at too. However, I would prefer it kept the collapsible stock

HappilyAddicted

Wow...I would have a hard time parting with that. Thank you very much for your help. My purchase will be at least 4-6 months away so I have a bit of time to do my research.

My plan is to eventually put on a collapsible stock, but I would have to go the NFA route which takes lots of patience.

HappilyAddicted

Tacky,

I would also like to apologize for hijacking your thread. That was not my intention at all.
I just figured I could gain some knowledge from it.

Tacky

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Originally Posted by HappilyAddicted Wow...I would have a hard time parting with that. Thank you very much for your help. My purchase will be at least 4-6 months away so I have a bit of time to do my research.

Now you see why It took me over a year to say yes to that deal. I also had other parts for that vector. Don't mind the highjacking as long as we are talking guns. Same family anyways. I know exactly what your going through with the NFA stuff, my local LEO won't sign off on anything NFA even though its legal in NC and my county, so i have been trying to go the gun trust route myself not so much for MG's but for SBR, SBS, and Suppressor since I do alot of indoor shooting. Speaking of the HK's I have always had the idea to by the USC carbine and convert it to the semi UMP but your looking atleast 3k, BUT its ultra rare. I will however keep you guys posted of my progress with My PTR and also the accuracy.

Its my plan to get one of Bill Springfields triggers that drops the weight to between 4 and 5 lbs, install the heavy recoil buffer from the MG G3 and install a PWS compensator to reduce recoil. here are the links below if interested.

Bill Springfield - www.TriggerWork.net


HK Heavy Buffer - HKPARTS.NET


PWS FSC91 Compensator - HKPARTS.NET

Tacky

I remembered seeing a few of the MKE clones supposedly made on HK tooling from Turkey I believe, the ones I have seen 3 or 4 were not what I would call acceptable. There was a serious gap between the lower trigger and magwell area, and surface area looked as if it had been cut by hand with a hack saw blade, not to mention they didn't come with a forearm, just an exposed barrel. It may be a good firing firearm and i am not knocking anyone that has it since I have not fired one, but its not asthetically pleasing, which makes me feel that other area's may have not been assembled as good as they should have been or attention paid to detail. Just a thought!

HappilyAddicted

Great information all around Tacky. I plan on going the Trust route once I "pull the trigger" on it. Looking forward to a range report from you.