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Old May 30th, 2012, 04:36 PM   #91
 
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Treadhead,
I also use a lot of tape and paper when making up a new pattern, its better to get it right the first time with inexpensive paper and tape than guessing and not.



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Old May 30th, 2012, 06:54 PM   #92
 
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Hi Seneca,

You sure got that right.

I feel downright lucky if I get four good sized holsters with skirts and liners out of a single shoulder piece of 5 to 6 ounce leather. Considering that one piece of leather will run around $40 to $50, that is just barely making it good. And I save all that scrap as it can be used for smaller pieces like tabs, inserts and welting; stuff that can be pieced together since it gets sandwiched between two single complete pieces and stitched and glued in place. Other longer, thinner bits can be used for decorative add ons.
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I like your idea of molding the leather to the pistol/revolver etc. I do the same thing or have...it depends.

Thats about what I pay for a sholder, here in Idaho. I get the leather that is advertised as "may have blemishes or range marks"...and by the looks of some them, those old cows must have lead a pretty rough life...old healed up and tanned scars just add character to a piece of leather. At least thats what I tell myself.

I'm thinking of doing up a knife sheath when I can get around to it...so far tho I can't seem to get the time to work on one. I bought an inexpensive lace maker so some of the longer pieces of scrap get turned into lace...great for ties and hammer loops.
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Hi Seneca,

I agree, those little lace cutters are a great way to use up scraps, only problem I ever had was the lace that comes up usually has more curl than a pigs' tail.

Wet forming is also a good trick to use, mostly on more modern styles. Some of those commercial guys can just about duplicate the machine marks on a handgun the way they do it. I prefer to not use it so much on older styles like the Western type I just finished, they didn't do it quite so much back in the day.

I look forward to seeing your sheath project. It only took me about three years of threatening to do one up for my "Arkansas Toothpick" and then I had to have a requirement for one to go with my Remington 1858 rig that I made to sort of goose me into it.
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Hi All,

I got back to work on my P-90 Project, a Clip On Thumb Break Holster. After cutting out a goat skin liner for it I went ahead and grooved the outer edge with my adjustable grooving tool. Gluing the liner and holster together with contact cement and assembling the clip and it's leather retainer was next.



I skived off the edges all around except for the small area that would be sewn together to form the actual holster. I like to wait until it is sewn up before smoothing that down straight, skiving it off and slicking it up. Wetting the edge all around and then running my slicking tools around it to round the edge and smooth the liner and holster into one piece. I also punched the holes for the snap button for the thumb break after holding the holster body together around the gun and spotting where it needed to be.



Dyeing it came up, I chose the Hi Light Briar Brown color for both sides. Next came installing the snap. I put the rounded button that would normally be on the outside for regular uses on the inside face of the back of the holster. The flat part of the snap that would normally be on the back side of more normal applications went on the inside of the safety strap where it would be up against the side of the slide. Since I don't want it to ride there and wear the finish off, I cut a second piece of the goat skin liner material that matches the tip of the safety strap to a point below the edge of the inner snap base. This got glued in place with contact cement and then I punched the holes all around the outer edge so that everything is stitched together. I also punched the holes around the edges of the clip assembly after gluing it down with contact cement. So now I can stitch things up starting with the clip assembly tomorrow.

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Does Tandy or some other source carry a "Pounce Wheel" to roll around the edge of your holster marking locations and spacing for stitching? The ones at the local super market are too dull and closely spaced for transfer of clothing patterns rather than leather stitching. Doing a project over again I'd still glue the leather together with Acraglas, use a pounce wheel to mark stitch marks and then drill the stitch holes with an appropriate Numbered bit and then use my speedy stitcher to sew things up. Smithy.
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Does Tandy or some other source carry a "Pounce Wheel" to roll around the edge of your holster marking locations and spacing for stitching? Smithy.
Something like this?

Overstitcher,Set,Sz 5,6,7 - Springfield Leather Co. Inc.
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Something like this?

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Exactly!! Thanks AcePilot. Smithy.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 06:43 AM   #99
 
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Hi Guys,

And yes Tandy puts out the same three wheel set up as well as individual tools. I opted to get the 6 holes per inch when I started and now have it and the 5 holes per inch model as well. The 5 hole one is good for thinner leathers that might tear through with the 6 or 7 hole per inch models.

A good tip is to use a grooving tool of some sort to run a groove around the area you want to put your stitches in. Then wet the area before you use the Pounce Wheel. That gives you a better impression to follow. Then don't forget to run it over the stitches after you sew it up, that helps to even them out and makes them look better.
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Hi All,

I got my Ruger P-90 Holster Project all stitched up this afternoon and it fits, holds and carries the pistol quite nicely. At it's widest point overall it is just right at 2 inches wide, which carrying a full sized .45 Automatic of any sort is not bad at all. Since the Ruger P-90 is sort of a fat boy even for a single stack pistol, I am satisfied with the results. The goat skin liner allows for a pretty nice presentation speed which is the main reason I wanted to use it. So here it is.



Looking at the top of it you can see that the rear sight has some protection and the safety strap fits nicely over the back of the slide just below the hammer spur. You can also see that the thumb break has enough protruding to make it easy to operate.



Looking at the back side of things you can see the clip which is at just enough of an angle to bring the grip up for a convenient draw and get positioned to be in operation quickly. At the same time most of the pistol is shielded from the back side to keep from getting sweated on.



So here is how my three day weekend of working in the leather shop went for me.

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Very nice...
I'd add to the stitching answer, when you stitch lay each stitch down the same. Use the same tension and thread through direction. That way they'll come out looking even.

By using a ponce front and back (keeping the number of hole the same) and punching all holes from the smooth side of the leather you don't get a ragged appearance to the hole on the back of the project. Not actually necessary but helps keep the stitch line looking neat on both sides of the leather...
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Here is a knife pouch I put together over an evening....
Made it from a scrap of leather, that was not big enough for a holster project, yet big enough that I couldn't bring myself to throw away...




Simple, functional, easy to make and will last a very long time and should wear nicely. Fun stuff!
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Seneca,
Nice job and really quick.
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Hi Guys,

Yeah Buddy, I like that knife case there Seneca. And it will probably last a lifetime. Most leather stuff if taken care of and not stressed overly much are incredibly durable as can be evidenced by the amount of old tack and western leather that is still floating around. I have seen what saddle restorers can do with stuff that you would think is beyond redemption, it is quite amazing.

I recently got a Percussion Pistol Pattern Pack from Tandy's website and have been tinkering around with the items in it. Since I have a Remington 1858 Revolver I decided to score a period correct powder flask to go with it. I found one from Davide Pedersoli off of the Track Of The Wolf website and scored it to use as a mold to build my first flask holster up. While it may not be the one that I keep, I want to experiment around with which side works best overall in cutting one out,the first one came out looking pretty good and is definitely functional.



I already have one fellow wanting one to be made for him and am hoping to be able to invest what I make off of it into a large sized flask to use as a pattern for the other flask holster in the Pattern Pack. I have also discovered a couple of other flask holster designs that I want to try out, not that they would be an improvement over this one, but variety may show something I am not aware of in my naivete on the subject.
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computerdynamics,
Thanks! much appreciated. I believe I spent more time making the pattern than actually putting it together. Now I have another pattern and can use it to get creative with the scraps. Besides I can only make so many zipper/draw string tabs...

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I always imagined they carried that kind of flask in a hip pocket or a possibles bag. Now that I see a belt holster made up for one, I can see where it would be the way to go. Very convienient and practical.

Looks good...got me thinking the next time I see a powder flask for sale and the price is right...I may just have to buy it and make a holster for it. I shoot BP revolvers and that looks a handy thing to have!
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