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Old January 8th, 2011, 04:45 PM   #1
 
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7.62x25 conversion?

Any thoughts on putting a 30 carbine barrel on a .327 blackhawk frame and lockwork then having a cylinder chambered in 7.62x25 made and fitted? I think an 8 shot revolver that takes a round that is so plentiful and dirt cheap would a perfect plinking gun and the 7.62x25 round is nothing to sneeze at in terms of power. Would it work? if not would a regular 30 carbine blackhawk work? Any thoughts are appreciated



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Ruger® New Model Blackhawk® Blued Single-Action Revolver Model 10595

I think they have been offering this model since the 70's.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 05:18 PM   #3
 
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thank you for reply however i'm wondering about the 8 shot 327 lock work chambered in 7.62x25... i am very framilar with the 30 carbine blackhawk. i was hoping that a 7.62x25 wouldnt have the ear splitting crack of the 30...
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Any info on this project? I like the oddball cartridges, and a revolver in 7.62x25 would be great! I'm working on building a polish underfolder kit into a 7.62x25 powered carbine.
Seems like that all you'd need would be someone to make a custom cylinder, and headspace it....
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Well i still haven't given up on it but it will require a barrel for .311 bullets, not .308... I still think it would be a BA little thuck gun and i can buy rounds cheaper then i can load them for my .44.
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I do believe you are neglecting the fact that its a bottleneck round with the body of the case significantly larger than .32 cal. its sized about 9mm size, too big to fit 8 around the cylinder.
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also the bottle neck high pressure cartridge will likely set back in the chamber tying up the cylinder.
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Actually, the 7.62x25 is an odball cartridge. Unlike the other Russian cartridges, 7.62x39 and 7.62x54r, the x25 is in fact .300/.308 whereas the other are actually .303/.311.
During WWII the Russians used spare or damaged Mosin-Nagant barrels because accuracy isn't all that great with open bolt subguns like the PPSh-41 and PPS-43 anyway. Why? Because close enough is almost a religion in Russia, especially during the communist years. Razadp is correct that the cartridge rim is almost (within a few thou) the exact same size as 9mm, or .38 Super. For a little while, there was an outfit that made a conversion kit for 9mm/.38Sup 1911s. I haven't seen them in a while (otherwise I'd probly get one!). My guess, since they had you use the orig. mags, I'm guessing they had feed problems.
Anyway, it's definitely feasible, you would just need a cylinder made. You just might end up with 5 round capacity if the cylinder is smaller than a .357.
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My first instinct is to expect trouble from bottleneck case setback in a revolver cylinder. Then again, there was the .22 Harvey Kay-Chuck, which was offered as a fix for the hideously shaped .22 Jet. The 2nd .22 Mag cylinder was drilled out and the extractor reworked to accept a shortened(?) and improved .22 Hornet cartridge. The shoulder angle was roughly similar to the Russian round, though smaller. Case setback was said to be very much reduced with the Kay-Chuck, so maybe it would NOT be a problem with the Russian cartridge.

For all the money spent to get there, though, I sorta wonder if it wouldn't be less expensive to just go buy a Cz52 or Tokarev with all the trimmings.
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My first instinct is to expect trouble from bottleneck case setback in a revolver cylinder. Then again, there was the .22 Harvey Kay-Chuck, which was offered as a fix for the hideously shaped .22 Jet. The 2nd .22 Mag cylinder was drilled out and the extractor reworked to accept a shortened(?) and improved .22 Hornet cartridge. The shoulder angle was roughly similar to the Russian round, though smaller. Case setback was said to be very much reduced with the Kay-Chuck, so maybe it would NOT be a problem with the Russian cartridge.

For all the money spent to get there, though, I sorta wonder if it wouldn't be less expensive to just go buy a Cz52 or Tokarev with all the trimmings.
I think therewould be issues with the 7.62 due to the bullet weight exacersbating the case setback issue, that and the fact that much of the cheap 7.62 ammo is steel cased which I don't think expands and "grabs" the chamber wall quits as well as brass ammo does makes me doubtful about the idea.
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