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Old January 6th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #1
 
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Talking Glock 42 380 acp??!!

Hello all:

Newbie to the board here. I did not know where to post this so if admin needs to move it just let me know OK?

I was wondering if there were any "Glock lovers" hiding here about? LOL!

I do not have but one little semi auto and probably will not buy another. I am a wheel man myself! But I was wondering if some of you experts can give an opinion on the newly reputed Glock 42 380 acp?

Need some with experience to tell me what are the "pros" and "cons" of such an animal?

Let me hear from you OK?



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I'll stick to my LC9 because its the same size and in a larger caliber.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 06:27 AM   #3
 
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I think Glock is moving in the right direction with this one. . It's allowing alot of Law enforcement agencies to approve this as a back up..

I'm no expert but given that the size is bigger than a mouse gun (LCP,bodyguard,etc) I'm willing to bet the .380 is just a teaser with a 9mm or even .40 coming soon!! Heck if glock really wants to stir the pot maybe a 10mm!!
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Oh pros and cons..

Pros: it's a Glock=reliable as a Toyota
It's single stack, concealable
Glock trigger
Should be easy to shoot, no thumb safety..
It's bigger than mouse gun should have manageable recoil for newbies, people with disabilities, kids etc,.

Cons: it's a Glock=ugly as a Toyota
.380 some people don't like to depend on it.
If its that big and you don't mind recoil get a 9mm
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Glock fan here. They'll sell by the boxcar load worldwide (quite a few countries don't allow their citizens to possess 'military' calibers), and because it says Glock on the slide.

As I already have a 380 I like (Micro Desert Eagle) I won't get one. If the 9mm comes later I'll only get one if the R51 doesn't work out. Ok, maybe I'll get one even if the R51 does work out...unless the rumored R53 appears.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 09:06 AM   #6
 
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Stick with my time proven LC9
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Old January 7th, 2014, 10:16 AM   #7
 
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I frequent a CCW discussion forum and they banned the discussed of "mouse guns" which includes the .380. They say true CCW capable weapons should be 9mm/.38/.357 and larger.
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I frequent a CCW discussion forum and they banned the discussed of "mouse guns" which includes the .380. They say true CCW capable weapons should be 9mm/.38/.357 and larger.

My brother in law works homocide for dallas and has seen lots of deaths by .22 and .380
His issue weapon is a Glock in .40 his off duty weapon is an LC9. When he doesn't have that he carries an LCP in .380

I'm willing to bet the guys on the forum would not want to get hit with .380
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I'm tired of hearing Glock this, Glock that- Glock Glock Glock. Blah! And the other thing, .380 ammo costs more than 9mm... So a new pistol from Glock in .380 acp huh? I'll pass.
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The purpose of a self-defense firearm is not to kill. Rather, the purpose in using one is to STOP an attacker. A .22 LR and .380 can indeed kill, but can they stop an attacker before he can kill you? Stopping an attacker requires hits to a vital organ. Once you do your part by putting the bullet where it counts, the bullet must do it's part by penetrating through heavy clothing, bone, and tissue. With modern jacketed hollowpoint ammunition, 9mm Luger, .38 Special +P, .40 S&W, .357 Sig, and .45 ACP are all very similar in penetration. A .380 penetrates several inches less and many resort to using ball ammo to make up for the lack of penetration. .380 is a marginal self-defense cartridge. Why limit yourself when you can gain several inches of penetration (and energy and expansion) with 9mm Luger or .38 Special +P in a firearm close to the same size and weight?
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Too little, too late! (or actually, NOT too little)
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I frequent a CCW discussion forum and they banned the discussed of "mouse guns" which includes the .380. They say true CCW capable weapons should be 9mm/.38/.357 and larger.
They have obviously never shot a Sig P238 with Hornady CD or CorBon or Gold dot ammo.

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Glock fan here too. Sounds like a winner. Can't wait to see one
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I'm tired of hearing Glock this, Glock that- Glock Glock Glock. Blah! And the other thing, .380 ammo costs more than 9mm... So a new pistol from Glock in .380 acp huh? I'll pass.
Thanks for your input! Like it or not, the G42 will be the story of the year. Glock's first new frame size in near 30-years.
The cost per round is irrelevant. It all has to add up to 13ounces loaded 6+1 w/holster.
Only.380 autos can get there.
Been carrying LCP since it came out and would be hard to beat.
BTW you live in the greatest state in America.
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The purpose of a self-defense firearm is not to kill. Rather, the purpose in using one is to STOP an attacker. A .22 LR and .380 can indeed kill, but can they stop an attacker before he can kill you? Stopping an attacker requires hits to a vital organ. Once you do your part by putting the bullet where it counts, the bullet must do it's part by penetrating through heavy clothing, bone, and tissue. With modern jacketed hollowpoint ammunition, 9mm Luger, .38 Special +P, .40 S&W, .357 Sig, and .45 ACP are all very similar in penetration. A .380 penetrates several inches less and many resort to using ball ammo to make up for the lack of penetration. .380 is a marginal self-defense cartridge. Why limit yourself when you can gain several inches of penetration (and energy and expansion) with 9mm Luger or .38 Special +P in a firearm close to the same size and weight?
I don't agree. That whole ball ammo thing is a very old argument. The newer modern .380 ammo's can give you a consistent 11-12" of penetration & expansion. I promise you with proper shot placement the bad guy is not going to ask " was that only a .380". You need to look at the numerous tests on YouTube with ballistic gel. & 4 layers of heavy denim. Is a bigger, heavier round better, of course, but the .380 will do the job if you do your part. So many people buy bigger calibers & end up not carrying them because they are too cumbersome. Why do you think the .380 sales have been through the roof for years.

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