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Old May 4th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #76
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Please note: I am not a Glock hater. I have shot one ONCE ( I am no expert i am a new shooter since Nov 2012). I just find them Bulky and a little uncomfortable in the hand. When I shot the Glock i was VERY impressed by the very loud and pronounced reset. I was initially taught to shoot by a friend who is very much a Ruger Fan. And i really did well with his SR40C. So that's what I looked for and the Gun Show price was more than fair. Who knows maybe as I get better as a shooter. I will give Glocks another Look See.
I always encourage people to shoot as many different guns as they have opportunity to shoot. However, I doubt you'll like a Glock 23 or 27 as well as the SR40c. The .40 is a hard round to tame, but Ruger nailed it with the SR40c. I've shot a 23, 26 and 30. The 23 and 27 are both .40. with the 23 probably closest to the SR40c.

Glock had some trouble with their early .40's. I don't recall what it was exactly, but I do know that the 23 for me had excessive muzzle flip. I found the Springfield XDm40 to shoot about the same, though the trigger was better. What I wound up buying was an XDm45 4.5" barrel which performed head and shoulders above the two .40's.

Later on I bought an XDm9c 3.8" which I fell in love with. However, I found it a bit bulky for CC. That led to my SR9c which was perfect! So perfect I bought its big brother, the SR40c. Again I was very pleasantly surprised with how well both the 9 and the 40 shot. And I bought those without having shot them first. Today they're two of my favorite guns and have used them both for CC.

The one Glock I actually liked quite a bit was the 30. I seriously considered buying one to replace my Colt Defender, which had been stolen. However, I managed to find another Defender and while it costs twice as much as the Glock, it was/is a much better gun for me.

If you haven't shot a .45ACP, you should. It's a much more managible round that the .40. It often surprises people how much easier it shoots than the .40.

But keep trying different guns. You'll like some and hate some. But it's all up to what you like.




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If Glock would only offer their guns with the options of a manual safety, and also a stainless finish, THEN I'd buy one. But they don't, so I don't.
Those are my two reasons right there.

<-- that's my favorite right now, the SR9c.
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I've shot them. I've found them to be very reliable, far more so than the piece of #@?! Sig P220ST my agency currently issues. However, all that aside, they're just not my cup of tea. If Glock would only offer their guns with the options of a manual safety, and also a stainless finish, THEN I'd buy one. But they don't, so I don't. Nothing wrong with them, just a matter of personal preference.
I've seen Glocks with stainless slides. It does help their looks quite a bit.
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I bought three of them when Clinton was elected. Was sure semi autos were going to be banned. All my Glocks were gen 2 Guns. I probably could have sold them during the early years of the AWB and made a little money, but I didn't. Later, the Gen 3 and 4 came out, and after the AWB expired and the value of my Gen 2's dropped like a rock. That was about the time I starting getting into single action Rugers. Luckily, I now have all my original investment back out of the plastic frame guns, and have put it back into real guns made with real metal. Glocks are fine pistols but for a investment, there are better options.
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Point of interest

Glock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Glock 17S is a variant with an external, frame-mounted, manual safety. Small numbers of this variant were made for the Tasmanian, Israeli, Pakistani and perhaps several South American security forces.[64] They are stamped "17", not "17S". They resemble, but are distinguishable from, standard Glock 17 pistols that have been fitted with the after-market Cominolli safety.[65]

MANUAL SAFETY KIT FOR GLOCKŪ, Cominolli Custom
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I don't understand the need for a manual safety. The trigger movement finishes cocking the striker. If you don't want it to shoot, don't pull the trigger.
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There's nothing wrong with Glock pistols, however contrary to what some may believe they aren't all that, and they're not everybody's cup of tea! What works for you may not necessarily work for everybody else.
There are many who constantly harp on Glock and disparage anyone who doesn't own one, "your guns junk and my Glock is everything", Your gun will fail you in a fight and my Glock never will... and frankly it rubs folks the wrong way. Face it not everybody it going to fall in love with Glock, some may not like them.
It's the same reason we have different automobile brands, not everybody drives or even likes Ford, so we have Chrysler, Jeep, GM, Chevy, Cadillac, Toyota, Nissan, VW, BMW, etc. One size, one brand don't work for every one.
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trigger ... CZs work, Rugers work, S&Ws work, Springfields work, etc., etc., etc. What's your point?
+1 What Buck said.
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My issue is not with the gun (although I personally don't care for or own one for several reasons).

My issue is with the hardcore glock owners who are not shy about espousing their belief that glock is the "be all end all" pistol in the universe and look down at their collective nose at anyone who does not agree or that dares to point out any deficiencies.
++++1 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What he said^^^^^^^^^^^
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The new Ruger's and S&W's are knock-off of what Austrian made handgun?
And many of Glocks "innovations" came or were borrowed from other designers too. They are not an original design either. So what's your point?
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LOL you got that right. The only other group that might be worse is the AR crowd.
You mean the "high end, mil spec, it's a fighting machine only and everything else is crap" AR crowd.
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I don't understand the need for a manual safety. The trigger movement finishes cocking the striker. If you don't want it to shoot, don't pull the trigger.
+1

the presence of a manual safety is the only thing that has kept me from buying an SR9C.

don't want one, don't need one. I don't have small children milling around the house or people who are ignorant of firearms. if someone is capable of figuring out how to insert a magazine and rack the slide to chamber a round, I don't think the manual safety is going to be that big of an obstacle. And my firearms aren't laying around with one in the chamber, so the possibility of an accidental discharge is just about nil, with or without a safety.
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And many of Glocks "innovations" came or were borrowed from other designers too. They are not an original design either. So what's your point?
I've posted this info before


Glock has been around a long time. They have often been said to invent many of the features that one can find on their pistols. In reality many of the Glock "firsts" were based on other earlier models by other companies.

The Remington Nylon 66 was the first polymer firearm, long before Glocks were introduced.

Heckler and Koch VP70 made the first striker fired polymer firearm in 1970, a full 10 years before Glock produced one.

The trigger safety on the Glocks was first found on the Iver Johnson's Arms and Cycle Works revolvers in the early 1900's.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/guts...fired-pistols/ for some interesting reading.

There really are very few truly new things under the sun in the firearms industry.


I always get a kick out of their "Glock Perfection" motto. Why, then are they on Gen4?

This is essentially a Ruger forum. Why should a Glock fanboy expect any different (although Glock owners are treated much, much better here) treatment here than is given to a Ruger enthusiast on a Glock forum?

Imagine how long a similar thread would last on GT.

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You mean the "high end, mil spec, it's a fighting machine only and everything else is crap" AR crowd.
+1

There are lots of AR owners without the attitude. But I know what they're talking about.
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