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Old January 26th, 2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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New Walther PPK/S .22LR

Now on the Walther site. First info I'd heard it was a PPK, but it turns out to be a PPK/S with the longer grip.

Mags will hold ten rounds, weight is 1.5 pounds, .1 pound more than a .380 PPK, so I assumed it is still all stainless, or all blued steel, like the .380. The Walther site says "identical to its PPK brother in .380" and lists it available in black or stainless.

Yet, Gallery of Guns lists it as black, or nickel finish, with alloy construction, though. And $399 MSRP for black, $429 for nickel. The stainless .380 MSRP is $699 (??).

So if this pans out true, it may be another Umarex pot metal gun I would not want. I would want a remake of the original, even with the newer large beavertail.

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Old January 26th, 2013, 05:28 PM   #2
 
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I want a PPK 380 they have all disappeared from lgs.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 03:43 PM   #3
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I looked over the Walther Forum today and found three long threads about the new .22 PPK/S. They have studied photos, prices, weights, etc.

Their general consensus is that it will not be like the original .22 version. It will apparently be made by Umarex, who now owns Walther. It seems to have a P-22 based action, and will have an alloy frame and zinc slide (like the P-22). Finish is a satin nickel to appear stainless. For a stated $439, I guess right on their part.

If this proves true, I will be disappointed, but it will save me a bunch of cash not buying one........
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Too bad it's not a real Walther. As soon as I read this I thought of the guys I see at gun shows with old ones that they price at $900-1000, but never sell. It would sure shake up their world if it was reintroduced at half the price. A zinc slide just doesn't inspire me with confidence.
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Too bad it's not a real Walther. As soon as I read this I thought of the guys I see at gun shows with old ones that they price at $900-1000, but never sell. It would sure shake up their world if it was reintroduced at half the price. A zinc slide just doesn't inspire me with confidence.
The .380s and .32s list at $699 in stainless. I would pay that for the same gun in .22lR. I wouldn't pay $50 for the new one if it's what the Walther Forum is predicting. They are major disappointed.
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If it was an aluminum alloy frame, I wouldn't mind at all. They used to make such a thing before GCA '68, called the PPK-L ("L" for Lightweight). I think they are about the ideal size and weight for a .22 fun gun.

I have one, but have never shot it. It's like new in the box with the plastic bag, etc, and while I usually shoot guns no matter what, I held off this time because I don't see these much in any condition. I know that if I break down and shoot it, they will start making them the next day.
Every few years it seems like Walther (or S&W) has announced the return of .22 PPKs or PPK/Ss and I resist shooting it a little longer. But I never see one.

I hope it actually happens this time.
But if it's that weird "metal" they use in the P22, no thanks.
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I just want to know if the magazines are compatible with my original PPK/S .22. I'm hoping...
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Well... Im gonna be the Guinea Pig. I couldnt help myself. I had an LCP I hated(2 actually). I turned the one LCP into a Sig Trailside. Yesterday I was in my LGS for some scope rings, and they had both the Blue and Silver PPK/S .22s in stock. Yeah I know everyone says its junk, and will probably blow apart in my hand, but it sure was purty. I traded the second LCP and some cash for this new Walther. I had an extra barrel adapter for a P22 that was sent to me by mistake(ordered one for my Mosquito). I have been adding to my threaded 22 pistol collection, so this fit the bill nicely. The DA pull is horrendous, not quite as bad as my Taurus 94, but close. I dont really care, it wont be a carry pistol, just a plinker, so SA will be the first shot most of the time. It actually has a nice pull in SA.

This isnt going to be a pistol Im gonna put thousands of rounds through. I have Rugers for that. I have .22 pistol disease, and this is number twenty-seven. This sure appears to be a nice pistol. Time will tell.



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I looked over the Walther Forum today and found three long threads about the new .22 PPK/S. They have studied photos, prices, weights, etc.

Their general consensus is that it will not be like the original .22 version. It will apparently be made by Umarex, who now owns Walther. It seems to have a P-22 based action, and will have an alloy frame and zinc slide (like the P-22). Finish is a satin nickel to appear stainless. For a stated $439, I guess right on their part.

If this proves true, I will be disappointed, but it will save me a bunch of cash not buying one........
Aww crap! I new Walther would go with the Zinc slides on the .22 LR version. Dog gonnet!
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Weblance, it looks pretty though!
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Range Report

Took my new Silver Walther PPK/S .22 to the range today, and fired 400 Federal Bulk, 100 Blazer bulk, and 50 CCI Standard Velocity. I shot it suppressed, With my SilencerCo SS Sparrow. I had 1 malfunction. Around round 70, I had a stovepipe, with the Federal Bulk. About the time I was finishing up with the Federal, the pistol was starting to balk when chambering the first round from the open slide. The pistol was filthy by this time, and shooting suppressed really makes a pistol cruddy inside. I had to nudge the rear of the slide to get it to close. After doing this maybe 5 times, the hesitation was gone, and the pistol was chambering again correctly. 550 rounds, 1 malfunction.

I dont have an old PPK to compare this new pistol with. Most of the owners of original PPKs have turned a cold shoulder to the new, reissued PPK/S. I even read one comment where the poster said the pistol would only last 1,000 rounds. Some said they will explode in your hand. This simply isnt true. Maybe this pistol doesnt have the labor intensive, hand fitting of critical parts, and tolerances may not be as perfect as the original, but I see no wear of any kind. I detail stripped the pistol, and checked it carefully. I feel very confident that it will be able to fire another 450 rounds without too much trouble.

I noticed something interesting shooting it suppressed. It doesnt hardly recoil at all. Its more of a push, than a thump. I had my Mosquito with me also, and they are similar weight. The Mosquito jumps more than the Walther. Its a fun little pistol to shoot suppressed.

The sights were set perfectly, and at 7 yards, it will shoot one ragged hole with ease. I wanted another external hammer, DA 22 pistol I could suppress. I paid $399, and so far, its a fun little plinker, with style. Im happy. Time will tell how it holds up.
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Web, I am very happy that you had such a great shooting session with the new PPK/S 22. I still have a 22 PPK I bought new back in the early 1960's.
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New Walther PPK/S .22LR

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I just want to know if the magazines are compatible with my original PPK/S .22. I'm hoping...
No, not compatible.
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