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Old August 18th, 2011, 07:11 AM   #31
 
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The best 45 acp hand gun is not a 1911 it is a smith 625. If i must use a 45 acp semi aut I like the cz 97 I know not a common gun. For me the 1911 in both mainspring housings and all barrel lengths is a lousy pointer. But then again for me the glock 17 luger 4 inc and colt sa are lousy pointers.



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The best 45 acp hand gun is not a 1911 it is a smith 625. If i must use a 45 acp semi aut I like the cz 97 I know not a common gun. For me the 1911 in both mainspring housings and all barrel lengths is a lousy pointer. But then again for me the glock 17 luger 4 inc and colt sa are lousy pointers.

Well at least you still have the 625 to fall back on, I agree by the way, that is one fine shootin iron.
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Wilson Combat, they will make it like YOU want it!! Im from AR, and so is WC so that is just my choice.
I tend to be biased toward the Wilson, because I have a Colt Combat Commander with Bomar sights. I saved my $$ for many years and was fortunate find a used pistol and to pay half of what it originally sold for. (Wilson records details of each pistol he makes).

With my limiting eyesight the Wilson's capabilities is much, much greater than my own. When I shoot it, I almost think I'm not doing it justice. It is such a fine firearm, I will pass it on to my younger son.

Iowagean offers excellent advice and there are several .45s 'smiths that you could not go wrong in buying one of their customs.

Selecting the "right" .45 is a personal thing. You are on the right track in researching your options. Do your homework, be patient and you will have the Right One.

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I'm not familiar with the S&W 625. Because of that and the fact my search only included currently made 1911's, it wasn't included for consideration. I do appreciate the input, however.

Regarding the Wilson Combat CQB, it was a finalist. But I wasn't able to find one I could acquire in time for it to be of any use to me. The other Wilson's finishing on top were the X-TAC and the classic. Both Wilson Combat and Ed Brown advise potential buyers that it will take 6 months from purchase date until delivery allowing no exceptions for any reason.

I almost gave up at that point, but I was told about a dealer who maintains a small stock of top of the line 1911's. Even he only had one unspoken for gun that fit what I was looking for, the Ed Brown Champion Molon Labe Limited Edition. The dealer originally ordered it and two more just like it back in April. I immediately told him I would take it and to PLEASE hold it for me. I was willing to put down a substantial deposit or even the full purchase price to hold it, but was told none was required. I called again this morning just to confirm it's earmarked for me... and it is! ;-)

I suspect that most any of the guns I looked at markedly significant differences in performance. But my goal was to get what was considered to be the best without worrying too much about the cost.
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Well at least you still have the 625 to fall back on, I agree by the way, that is one fine shootin iron.
I'll have to check this one out. I'm not familiar with it, but thanks!
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I tend to be biased toward the Wilson, because I have a Colt Combat Commander with Bomar sights. I saved my $$ for many years and was fortunate find a used pistol and to pay half of what it originally sold for. (Wilson records details of each pistol he makes).

With my limiting eyesight the Wilson's capabilities is much, much greater than my own. When I shoot it, I almost think I'm not doing it justice. It is such a fine firearm, I will pass it on to my younger son.

Iowagean offers excellent advice and there are several .45s 'smiths that you could not go wrong in buying one of their customs.

Selecting the "right" .45 is a personal thing. You are on the right track in researching your options. Do your homework, be patient and you will have the Right One.
Thanks, I found the Wilson's very hard to resist. They make such beautiful guns and there's no question about the quality. Who knows. If things should work out, maybe I'll have a Wilson some day, too. Not likely... ;-), but I sure would love to have one.

As for the Ed Brown, I called a couple of days ago to check on the progress. They told me that the gun should be ready soon and they expect to take delivery by the end of this week (today) or early next and then will call me and ship it ASAP.

It's taking Christmas forever to arrive this year!
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The best 45 acp hand gun is not a 1911 it is a smith 625. If i must use a 45 acp semi aut I like the cz 97 I know not a common gun. For me the 1911 in both mainspring housings and all barrel lengths is a lousy pointer. But then again for me the glock 17 luger 4 inc and colt sa are lousy pointers.
I just checked out the 625. No wonder I didn't recognize it! It's a wheel gun!



That's all I ever had or carried years ago. Revolvers are excellent guns in their own right, but just not my cup of tea any more. But I'd love to shoot a 45ACP revolver someday and see how it compares to the 357 magnums I used to carry. My guess is the kick would be about the same as the 357. Maybe somebody reading this knows how they compare.

I just checked out the CZ 97 BD. Looks like a nice gun.



My son-in-law, who got me started collecting guns has at least one CZ and I know he holds them in high esteem. However, this purchase is going to be a 1911. There's something about a 1911 that's just irresistable
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Very nice pick but just wondering by why did Les Baer go on the "not" list? Dont get me wrong I think Brown, Baer and Wilson all make great 1911s but at my CCW class I got a chance to shoot a Les Baer and it was by far the most impressive handgun I have ever shot.
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Here is the Ultimate GI M1911, IMHO.
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Very nice pick but just wondering by why did Les Baer go on the "not" list? Dont get me wrong I think Brown, Baer and Wilson all make great 1911s but at my CCW class I got a chance to shoot a Les Baer and it was by far the most impressive handgun I have ever shot.
What turned me off to Les Baer (and I'm hoping my memory serves me well) is that maybe they're just modest, but their accuracy report was less than Wilson or Ed Brown. I believe they said they were accurate to a 3" group at 50 yards, slightly less than Wilson's 1" at 25 or Ed Brown's 1.5" at 50 yards.

I'm sure that in reality, if there is a difference, I wouldn't notice it becuase I could only get groups like those on a bench rest. But it just seemed to me that they weren't quite in the same league as the others I was considering.
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My ultimate 1911 is a para usa single stack lda with a 5 inch barrel and a light rail and set of low profile fixed or adjustable sights depending on my needs. I know cocked and locked is safe in general, I have a mild case of loss of feeling in my fingers and that lack of sensation makes cocked and locked unsafe for me not for evweryone else.
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If Ruger gets around to making a 1911 that is similar in size to a Kimber Compact CDP II or a SIG 1911 C3 then I may go with the Ruger.
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If Ruger gets around to making a 1911 that is similar in size to a Kimber Compact CDP II or a SIG 1911 C3 then I may go with the Ruger.
According to Guns & Ammo, they're coming out with a full line of 1911's. The reason, besides already having an SR1911, for not having Ruger on my ultimate list, is the lack of a match grade barrel. That being said, I can shoot > 2" groups @ 15 yrds with the SR1911. I'm sure it's capable of better, but that's what I've been able to manage with > 500 rounds through it.

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My ultimate 1911 is a para usa single stack lda with a 5 inch barrel and a light rail and set of low profile fixed or adjustable sights depending on my needs. I know cocked and locked is safe in general, I have a mild case of loss of feeling in my fingers and that lack of sensation makes cocked and locked unsafe for me not for evweryone else.
Para was a finalist in my comparison. Nice firearm! And was one of the least expensive of the lot.
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