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Old December 20th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #1
 
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Tanfoglio Witness 45/22 combo

I was at the gun shop Saturday and found what I think could be a very nice semi. It is called the EAA Witness 45ACP/22 combo made by Tanfoglio. The gun is a full size steel frame 45ACP with a .22 LR conversion kit. The gun felt very good with very smooth action. I am thinking about getting this gun because as the salesman said I could shoot 22s for practice all day long for the price of .22s and follow up with some 45ACP all with the same gun. The shop had it priced at $556 but I have seen online pricing a $500. This link will take you to a more detailed article about the gun if your interested. Tangfoglio Witness series pistols
My question is, Does anyone have experience with this gun? Is it reliable in these calibers? I've read that the 10mm version has problems because of springs. The idea of changing calibers on the same frame appeals to me but it seems that Ruger and others does not offer that kind of flexibility. Any other suggestions for alternative Manufactures that easily lets you change calibers?



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Old December 21st, 2010, 06:58 AM   #2
 
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How much difference in recoil would there be between a 45ACP semi compared to a 357 magnum GP100? I realize there is a type of gun difference and the recoil is handled differently between the two types. I guess I want to know if I can handle the 357 magnum say 125 gr load would I be able to handle the 45ACP? Or would the 45 be significantly harder to handle than my GP?
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Having shot both .357s in various frame sizes and the .45s in autos I think if you can handle the .357 the .45 will be easier (unless shooting a lightweight e.g. 24 oz gun) as the recoil is not as sharp. Sig Sauer has a line of guns which the calibers can be changed readily and they offer .22LR conversions. CZ has a .22LR conversion for their 9mm/.40 S&W guns. A .22LR conversion is available from Ciener for the Beretta 92/96 9mm/.40 S&W. The 1911 pattern guns should be able to be changed between calibers with new slides/barrels and ejectors in the frame. These come in .45 ACP, .40 S&W, 10mm, .38 Super and 9mm and .22LR conversions are available or were from Colt, Advantage Arms, Marvel, Ciener and others. Finally, Glocks come in a number of calibers and .22LR conversions are available from Ciener, Advantage Arms and Tactical Solutions.
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Having shot both .357s in various frame sizes and the .45s in autos I think if you can handle the .357 the .45 will be easier (unless shooting a lightweight e.g. 24 oz gun) as the recoil is not as sharp. Sig Sauer has a line of guns which the calibers can be changed readily and they offer .22LR conversions. CZ has a .22LR conversion for their 9mm/.40 S&W guns. A .22LR conversion is available from Ciener for the Beretta 92/96 9mm/.40 S&W. The 1911 pattern guns should be able to be changed between calibers with new slides/barrels and ejectors in the frame. These come in .45 ACP, .40 S&W, 10mm, .38 Super and 9mm and .22LR conversions are available or were from Colt, Advantage Arms, Marvel, Ciener and others. Finally, Glocks come in a number of calibers and .22LR conversions are available from Ciener, Advantage Arms and Tactical Solutions.
Thanks Rover for your recommendations. Apparently Ruger does not offer any .22LR conversion kits to any of their SR or P semi autos. That would be my first choice. I will check out the ones you suggested.
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I have two Witness pistols, one being the .45ACP, and they are excellent IMO. The .22 conversion is icing on the cake, and if the price includes the conversion, I'd jump on it.
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"Apparently Ruger does not offer any .22LR conversion kits to any of their SR or P semi autos. That would be my first choice. I will check out the ones you suggested."

You are correct on the Rugers. I would think they (or S&W on their M&P line) would offer a conversion.

On the 1911 pattern guns besides the conversions I mentioned others have offered conversions over time but left the market for a myriad of reasons. If you go to the 1911 Forum ( 1911forum.com) somewhere there is a sticky with about 4 pages of links to discussions on the various conversions and what will work on what.

The Sig Forum might have some threads, if you do a search, on the conversions which are sold by Sig. The CZ Forum, using the search forum, has a bunch of threads, too. GlockTalk forum would be where to look on the .22 conversion threads there. Also, the CZ Forum has sections for the non CZ made CZ pattern type pistols such as the EAA. At one time EAA offered a smaller frame size gun in 9mm and .40 S&W but some time back standardized on the .45 ACP frame which allows all the caliber conversions. I have been in the process of seeking an auto that will handle a .22LR conversion but it will be in 9mm or .38 Super so the wife will shoot it. I think I have narrowed it down to a either a Commander sized 1911 or a Glock 19.

As an aside the Glock 19 can be converted to a .40 S&W Model 23 or vice versa. Glock also has a larger frame size that fires .45 ACP and 10mm. Advantage Arms offers .22LR conversions for most of the Glock models.
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