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Old April 30th, 2017, 03:23 PM   #31
 
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This hammer pistol has some nice features -- like the choice between using safety slides or a decocker. Plus it has an easy slide. And for a single width mag, you get a couple of extra rounds ... either 8+1 or 9+1. I do not like the bi-lateral safeties though.

They screwed up making the following video because the "expert" shooter obviously didn't train enough with the gun before filming -- he gets confused when forgetting to take the safety off.

Watch this video and see the delay on several of the pistol scenarios. They should have redone those shots instead of including them in the video.

Look at times 1:35, 3:40, 4:10

http://youtu.be/aOAoRxzjLKg

Those one-second delays could get your butt killed.



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Old April 30th, 2017, 03:45 PM   #32
 
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Too late in the game. Springfield needs to make a american gun!
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pretty heavy for a single stack sub compact.

I'm surprised more people aren't bitchin about the manual safeties.
No bitch about the manual safety since I'm a 1911 kind of guy so I carry cocked-and-locked. The weight OTOH is a show stopper for me since I'd want to pocket carry it. My P938 is considerably lighter.
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Too late in the game. Springfield needs to make a american gun!
I disagree. There is no option for a single stack polymer gun the size of the Shield, but in DA/SA.

I've been waiting for a gun like this for years. I sold my two Shields because I just prefer DA/SA guns.

I rented one of these yesterday - I like it. I'm just waiting for the shop to get some actual ones in - they only have the rental for now
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I've never owned a Springfield. I did hold an XDM last week though. They feel nice. Wouldn't mind owning one. Would also be nice if an American Gun Manufacturer made their polymer pistols in America.
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I'm a died-in-the-wool revolver guy, but this new Springfield looks interesting. I like the single-stack, DA first shot aspects. I've never seen a GOOD single stack misfeed, although did see a cheap, worn out one do that this past year.

On the idea of a Croat gun, doesn't Springfield hire American people, just like Sig? As to quality, I've never heard much against the poly-pistols they produce. I've been to Croatia, and it is a very industrious, up and coming country. Croatia doesn't equate to China, in my mind. If I was in the market, for an auto-loader, I'd give this gun a real look.
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I'm a died-in-the-wool revolver guy, but this new Springfield looks interesting. I like the single-stack, DA first shot aspects. I've never seen a GOOD single stack misfeed, although did see a cheap, worn out one do that this past year.

On the idea of a Croat gun, doesn't Springfield hire American people, just like Sig? As to quality, I've never heard much against the poly-pistols they produce. I've been to Croatia, and it is a very industrious, up and coming country. Croatia doesn't equate to China, in my mind. If I was in the market, for an auto-loader, I'd give this gun a real look.
Its interesting how a German Firearms Company makes a lot of their firearms in America.

For me its not a quality issue but the fact it isn't american made. Springfield also has the other issue with that whole bill in Illinois at the moment.
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My issue with Springfield is that they are acting like an anti 2A gun manufacturer. We already have to deal with gun grabbers and anti Second Amendment gun owners and other fudds.

Ruger, Smith and Wesson, and Colt went through similar issues. The ownership has completely changed under Ruger and it took a good 15 years for Smith and Wesson to recover to some degree.
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This is a physically large gun for a single stack. That coupled with the fact that I don't like DA/SA pistols makes this an undesirable firearm for me, YMMV.
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This is a physically large gun for a single stack. That coupled with the fact that I don't like DA/SA pistols makes this an undesirable firearm for me, YMMV.
It's kinda funny how the larger size and DA/SA action are what turn you away from this gun, but those are the exact same features that intrigue me about it. I have really big hands, so the size MAY be a plus (will need to hold one to know for sure). I also cut my teeth on a P85, and carried an M9 in the Army, so I am very familiar with the DA/SA action. I was not actively looking for a new carry gun (my SR9 works pretty well!), but I will definitely have to check one of these out.
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Its interesting how a German Firearms Company makes a lot of their firearms in America.

For me its not a quality issue but the fact it isn't american made. Springfield also has the other issue with that whole bill in Illinois at the moment.
While I'm not interested in this particular SA model, I would definitely take it over the SCCY that you apparently are interested in per another thread. Have you really read/watched the reviews on it?

Would also be interested in just how many other manufacturers, US or foreign spent any dollars lobbying against the crazy law in IL.

Seems to me like SA and RI are the only ones.

Based on the heat they got from this experience the should do as the other manufacturers did and stay away from lobbyists.
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While I'm not interested in this particular SA model, I would definitely take it over the SCCY that you apparently are interested in per another thread. Have you really read/watched the reviews on it?

Would also be interested in just how many other manufacturers, US or foreign spent any dollars lobbying against the crazy law in IL.

Seems to me like SA and RI are the only ones.

Based on the heat they got from this experience the should do as the other manufacturers did and stay away from lobbyists.
None of the manufacturers foreign or domestic (other than Springfield and Rock River) ever provided financial support in favor of this bill.

Considering that Springfield paid a lobbyist to give campaign donations to anti-gun Chicago demonrats to buy the manufacturer exemption, and only spent money to oppose the bill when called out on it, they still have a lot to answer for. They still have the exemption for manufacturers and big box retailers (which only applies to current manufacturers thereby preventing future competition).
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Seems to me SA and RRA ought to vote with their feet. There are plenty of gun friendly states that would likely give them tax breaks to relocate, them they wouldn't have to spend cash on lobbyists to defend their legacy.
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None of the manufacturers foreign or domestic (other than Springfield and Rock River) ever provided financial support in favor of this bill.

Considering that Springfield paid a lobbyist to give campaign donations to anti-gun Chicago demonrats to buy the manufacturer exemption, and only spent money to oppose the bill when called out on it, they still have a lot to answer for. They still have the exemption for manufacturers and big box retailers (which only applies to current manufacturers thereby preventing future competition).
Do you live in IL?

Just how much effort did the locals put into fighting this proposed law early on?
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Seems to me SA and RRA ought to vote with their feet. There are plenty of gun friendly states that would likely give them tax breaks to relocate, them they wouldn't have to spend cash on lobbyists to defend their legacy.
Exactly.

But then the people of IL wouldn't have anybody to blame.
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