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Old April 28th, 2017, 05:33 PM   #16
 
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No thanks. They're made in Croatia. Buy American made.



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Old April 29th, 2017, 03:48 AM   #17
 
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No thanks. They're made in Croatia. Buy American made.
And you own no foreign made firearms?

I posted this because many seem to want single stack, hammer fired models with double strike, decocker capabilities, etc.

Ruger and Smith, the two big American names don't make models that meet those specs.

I give preference to American made first but if there isn't a viable alternative, that is the fault of the American companies, not the foreign manufacturers who meet the need.
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Mrs. Buck is seriously considering replacing her M&P9c with the XDe. She prefers the DA/SA trigger and the slide seems significantly easier for her to rack. Since the 9c is also 25oz, weight won't be an issue. Regarding made in America ... While most of my collection is, I'm rather fond of my CZs and Hi-Powers and would not be bothered at all with a Croatian pistol in the house

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Our LGS doesn't have them available for sale yet, but has one on display for orders. The display model comes in a red tool box and contains a claw hammer to promote the step back into an DA/SA with hammer. Mrs. Buck decided to order one today


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Interesting move since many companies are moving away from hammer fired pistols. It'll be interesting to see how this sells and is received. More options are always a good thing.
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I like a nice hammer fired pistol with a decocker. I hope it does well, so they consider expanding to other models.
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No thanks. They're made in Croatia. Buy American made.
Yeah I've reached that stage as well. I always look for the American Made first. That's why I like Ruger. They say 100% of their firearms are made in America.
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Interesting move since many companies are moving away from hammer fired pistols. It'll be interesting to see how this sells and is received. More options are always a good thing.
Well they are not the first in that pool, a couple of other European manufacturers have come out with "affordable" hammer fired models. Of course Ruger has been there in some ccw pistols for years.
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I think they are trying to get some of the hammer fired pistol business that they haven't had products to sell till now.
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If this catches on, maybe Ruger will make a subcompact DA/SA to compete, reviving the P-series but thin and small. Think S&W 3913.
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At this point, I will never buy a Springfield product.

Springfield is the major financial supporter of the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. They (IFMA) had been a major opponent of the proposed dealer licensing bill under discussion in the IL Senate. In exchange for a carve out to exempt Springfield from the effect of the proposed law, they dropped their opposition to "no position" on the bill, helping it pass the Senate. Their willingness to throw all of the small dealers in IL (as well as all of the buyers in IL) under the bus to protect only themselves and the big stores (Cabela's, Bass Pro, etc) means the EMP I was strongly considering for this year is no longer an option.
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Apart from the political issues embroiling Springfield Armory, I find this pistol interesting as I, too, am a hammer-fired DA/SA fan. I am surprised how little mention there about the fact that this pistol is very close in size to a Sig P239, or even the 225A1. Specs on the P239 say weight is 29.5 ounces but if I remember my 9mm is closer to 28 ounces with empty mag. Height and length are very close. Capacity the same. Width, also very close, it seems. The Springfield is much cheaper, as a polymer framed pistol should be. I may have to look at one but I wouldn't call it a subcompact. I also want to see what plays out with Springfield and Illinois.
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Apart from the political issues embroiling Springfield Armory, I find this pistol interesting as I, too, am a hammer-fired DA/SA fan. I am surprised how little mention there about the fact that this pistol is very close in size to a Sig P239, or even the 225A1. Specs on the P239 say weight is 29.5 ounces but if I remember my 9mm is closer to 28 ounces with empty mag. Height and length are very close. Capacity the same. Width, also very close, it seems. The Springfield is much cheaper, as a polymer framed pistol should be. I may have to look at one but I wouldn't call it a subcompact. I also want to see what plays out with Springfield and Illinois.
The size/weight definition of Sub Compact has slowly been creeping up. A bunch of the subs are now in the size/weight range of the compacts.

As to the political scene in IL, there are always two sides to political issues.

For instance, how is it that two companies (reportedly) changing their position is more powerful than the lobbying efforts of hundreds of gun stores and millions of gun owners within the state? But that is a question for another forum.
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This looks like a nice pistol. When is the expected release date? I didn't find anything on that. As far as the political influence thing goes... money talks
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It's unfortunate about the political issues - but I think the pistol itself is a step in the right direction. I have a SiG P239 and it's just too heavy for concealed carry without a full-up belt holster. The new Springfield is just four ounces lighter so weight may be a real issue. I thought they had introduced something smaller and lighter when I first heard about it. Guessing here, strictly a SWAG, they had to have a heavy slide in order to keep the recoil spring weight lighter for easier slide racking. Maybe they'll also intro a smaller, lighter version in .380 ...
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