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Old April 17th, 2017, 04:49 PM   #1
 
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SA's ruger vs cimarron

I've kinda been looking around for a nice SA lately.. I've also been considering a .30 carbine BH or a Vaquero. I like Ruger's solid builds, but I also like Cimarron's case hardening & the hammer firing pin. What do you guys think?



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I've kinda been looking around for a nice SA lately.. I've also been considering a .30 carbine BH or a Vaquero. I like Ruger's solid builds, but I also like Cimarron's case hardening & the hammer firing pin. What do you guys think?
I would consider the Ruger Blackhawk as my first choice with it's noted strong frame. I have a Uberti in .357 mag and never had a problem with it until I ran into some thin walled primers with Armscor ammo. The primers were punctured by the hammer firing pin. I blame it on the ammo and not the revolver. My question to you is why .30 carbine instead of .45 Colt? .30 carbine is not a natural SA cartridge so you may have a hard time selling later.
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They are like Lays Potato Chips , you can't just have one, so no matter which one you choose you still will want the other one next....so just buy one and then the others.

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If you want long lasting reliable tanks, it's Ruger all the way. If you want guns that are more like Colt SAA's, then I suppose the Italian clones are the way to go.
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A side-by-side- comparison Ruger vs. Uberti. Don't read this wrong, I believe the Uberti/Cimarron is capable of fine accuracy, but the sights on the Ruger make precision shooter much easier.





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The new Cimarron/Ubertis are a heap better than they used to be, made well and pretty dependable. Having said that, I would not buy one over a Ruger unless I came across one that was significantly (really, really significantly) cheaper.
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They are like Lays Potato Chips , you can't just have one, so no matter which one you choose you still will want the other one next....so just buy one and then the others.

Life is full of choices, enjoy them all.
I couldn't agree more. I own the blackhawk in 30 carbine, great pistol, and alot of boom. I also own a Cimarron saa man with no name revolver in 45 LC. The cimarron has alot of character, its four audible clicks when cocking the hammer guaranteed to make you smile. The case hardening is emmaculate. Both are great revolvers, accurate, reliable, and fun. I would reiterate what rick said, buy both.

Out of the 2 I feel the cimarron has more character, the blackhawk is more of a workhorse, but both are great choices, and worthy to own.
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I would probably go Ruger over Uberti or Cimarron. I really like revolvers with the hammer firing pin, and case hardened frames, but I would pick ruger over those two because I think they are just more dependable and solid.

I had a 30 carbine rifle once years ago that my uncle had given me and had to sell it (depressed me) but due to dire financial straits at the time. I still tear up sometimes just thinking about that rifle. So always kinda wanted another one. And so to discover that Blackhawk has one chambered in one wow! A revolver in 30 carbine seems like the best of both worlds to me. So if I get the 30 carbine it will be out of partly sentimental reasons plus the fact that I like somewhat atypical cartridges. Agree with you on the resale of a 30 carbine, that is my only hesitation on it, and also I do not reload.. so if I got that one I'd probably be sure I will keep it. I have never had a 45 colt either, definitely on my list. I really like the stainless Vaquero in that round.

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I have both, amd enjoy shooting both, but if I were faced with your choice, I would buy the Ruger. Bull strong, accurate, and the new medium frames are a joy to shoot. Besides, you can carry six in the Ruger.
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Very much depends on what kind of shooting you plan to do. I have Cimarrons and Vaqueros as well as Blackhawks. A steady diet of heavy loads definitely favors the Rugers.

Yes, Rugers are stronger, more durable and so on, but I've actually had fewer issues, out of the box, with the Cimarrons, not to mention better fit and finish and triggers. That's not an easy thing for me to admit, since I am such a diehard Ruger SA fan, but that's been my experience. If you can get by the made in Italy thing and are willing to use loads appropriate to their build, you should at least give the Cimarrons a look. Even my recently acquired budget grade Cimarron Frontier 357, made by Pietta, has a better trigger than any of my Rugers and as far as accuracy it outshoots my 357 New Vaquero. Colt SA grips fit me better, too.

Not saying Cimarrons are better or worse. Just saying that both brands have something to offer the SA shooter. Doesn't have to be an either/or thing.

Cimarron, top, Ruger, bottom.

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North country gal I have a Ruger Vaquero Bisley Stainless Steel 5.5 .357 that I totally luv this gun the action etc. Mine is not a New Model but the old larger Vaquero. I have a Uberti 1873 Winchester Lever Action in .357 Magnum a short rifle the one thats in my Avatar pic. The color case hardening finish and deep bluing on the barrel I do agree that the fit and finish on my rifle is beautiful. The other SAA revolver thats in my avatar pic is my Pietta 1873 SAA in .22LR/.22Mag 10 shot with either cylinder I bought this at Cabela's the bluing is very deep and beautiful. I have to say I like the one piece wood grips. Question for you are Pietta & Uberti separate companies or are they together?? I really have a yearning to pick up either the Uberti Cattleman, Cimarron P , or Pietta 1873 SAA in a 4-5/8 or 5.5 inch barrel .357 in the color cased hardening. One of these would really go nice with my rifle........yea I know gun nut itus !!! One thing I had read on the Cimarron the rear sight channel is suppose to be made wider easier for older eye's to see?? Anyway I would appreciate your vast knowledge and feed back thank you!!!
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A side-by-side- comparison Ruger vs. Uberti. Don't read this wrong, I believe the Uberti/Cimarron is capable of fine accuracy, but the sights on the Ruger make precision shooter much easier.





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Need a little Kentucky windage, maybe a 2 o'clock hold, if you know that's were the gun (and you) groups.

Have to wonder if your adjustable sights on the BH are neutral or adjusted for elevation and windage.
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My Ubertis are about the only guns I have that did not, so far, need a trip to my gunsmith or back to the factory. I have invested a good bit in my 45 Colt stainless NM Vaquero, but now it's so fine that it would be among the last guns I would divest.

I don't shoot my Blackhawks very well except the older 45 convertible with 7 1/2" barrel, loaded with a 20k pressure range 45 Colt load. I am working on it, but they (4 of them) have not had any action work yet.

45 Colt or 44 Special can be relatively easy going, but in my use of the stouter guns I load for some drama and have to always work on that anticipation of recoil. I fixed the pain issue with grips that fit and/or a padded glove.
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Hi all, been reading the forum for some time and just now decided to participate instead of lurk.

I bought an Uberti / Cimarron open top in .45 Colt a few months back. Beautiful gun, loads of fun, but it shoots 4 to 5 inches high at 10 yards using handloads. There's no way to adjust the sights short of using a file (not an option) and I haven't had the time to play with the load. I've read elsewhere that the Army specified that the originals be minute-of-war pony at 50 yards and to expect them to shoot high at closer ranges so I can live with it as is.

That purchase lead to a Blackhawk (.45 Colt) and now I have a birdshead Vaquero on the way (also .45 Colt). So like someone else said, buying SA's is like eating potato chips. Beware.
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