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This is a discussion on 44 Magnum and Beyond within the Pistols & Revolvers forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Originally Posted by Bonk There's something about 45 Colt that gets into your soul doesn't it? It's by far my favorite pistol caliber. Oh, yeah. ...


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Old March 30th, 2017, 03:22 PM   #16
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There's something about 45 Colt that gets into your soul doesn't it? It's by far my favorite pistol caliber.
Oh, yeah. 300 grain plus Ruger only 45 Colt loads in my 4 5/8" Blackhawk give me ALL I want (actually more) when I need a recoil fix. In fact, I rate recoil with such loads as being, uh, "stouter" in this lighter gun than recoil in the heavier 454 SBH I used to shoot. Even the 460 I used to shoot was more manageable. Of course, it's wonderful how I can drop down to standard 45 Colt loads when I've had enough. If I had to limit myself to one big bore cartridge and maybe even one revolver, this would be it.




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good collection. I shoot 454 and 480 ruger. To me the most uncomfortable gun I have shot recoil wise was a smith 329 scandium 44 mag. The gun weighs 10 ounces less than a mountain magnum. I have not shot the 44 mag derringers from american derringer or bond arms they may be worse due to extreme light weight and poor grip size and shape.
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More power to all of you! I just can't get into it. I tried a 454 many years ago and it just did not do it for me. There is nothing I can put my finger on but it just doesn't ring my bell.

If a 44 mag doesn't do it, I'll go get a rifle

Maybe one day the bug will bite me.
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More power to all of you! I just can't get into it. I tried a 454 many years ago and it just did not do it for me. There is nothing I can put my finger on but it just doesn't ring my bell.



If a 44 mag doesn't do it, I'll go get a rifle



Maybe one day the bug will bite me.


The 460 XVR is a logical step above 44 to consider. It handles 3 cartridges. A heavier weighted frame, and a rubber grip goes a long way. It is the only one I'd consider in a 3" barrel of the larger beasts.


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That definitely counts as a big bore snubbie!

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I am considering a 460 XVR in 3".


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here is the next step up - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfeife...press_revolver
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Oh, yeah. 300 grain plus Ruger only 45 Colt loads in my 4 5/8" Blackhawk give me ALL I want (actually more) when I need a recoil fix. In fact, I rate recoil with such loads as being, uh, "stouter" in this lighter gun than recoil in the heavier 454 SBH I used to shoot. Even the 460 I used to shoot was more manageable. Of course, it's wonderful how I can drop down to standard 45 Colt loads when I've had enough. If I had to limit myself to one big bore cartridge and maybe even one revolver, this would be it.
That sure is a purty one.
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Damn sexy collection of wheel guns!

I think I know what you mean. I have a line on an Classic Super Blackhawk...
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More power to all of you! I just can't get into it. I tried a 454 many years ago and it just did not do it for me. There is nothing I can put my finger on but it just doesn't ring my bell.

If a 44 mag doesn't do it, I'll go get a rifle

Maybe one day the bug will bite me.
Believe it or not 44mag is my least favorite big bore to shoot. For some reason I find the the recoil impulse of 44mag to be more uncomfortable than 454C or 460. I think it's the difference between a big firm push vs a short snappy recoil. There's more energy in the 460/454 recoil but it happens relatively slower. I know we're talking milliseconds but it makes a difference IMO.
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One thing that I didn't mention is that these higher caliber guns have a wide range of ammunition choices. More wide that the 357/38 combinations.

Reloading opens upon even more options.


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Nice hardware set-up...

I, too, seem to prefer (don't mind really) the heavier recoil of the heavier hitters in the .45 and .454 calibers...kinda nice, occasionally, really! Fun to take the range for guys who've never shot them...the expression on their face really says it all!

I, too, started out with .357 magnums (a 4" GP100 was my second revolver, behind my Single-Six) and it sort of grew on me.

I picked-up a used Glock 30 .45 acp in a trade a year ago and have ordered a LWD G30-L barrel for it and am having them ream it to .460 Rowland. That, and with a 23# recoil spring, it'll be my camping/hiking gun starting this spring!

.460 Rowland is not quite a full .44 magnum load...but it is touching the bottom realm of the caliber. Having a 10-shot semi-auto with a 4.6" barrel and 2x10-round magazines should make for sufficient self-defense against just about any 2 or 4-legged critter east of the Rockies!

I've CC'd my Alaskan in .454 Casull on a couple of hiking trips, but in a hip holster, that gets a little uncomfortable after a day or so!

It's just a great way to get a 'kick' outta life...Woot!
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Very nice collection. I've been a 44 mag fan for over 25 years,it's my favorite caliber. Haven't​ tried any bigger than that in handgun calibers but I do have a pistol chambered in 35 Rem. that's got a lot more recoil than any 44 mag I've shot,it's a blast to shoot.....No pun intended 😁.

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Very nice collection. I've been a 44 mag fan for over 25 years,it's my favorite caliber. Haven't​ tried any bigger than that in handgun calibers but I do have a pistol chambered in 35 Rem. that's got a lot more recoil than any 44 mag I've shot,it's a blast to shoot.....No pun intended .

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Well, the 44 has a wide range of bullet weights. So the options for a heavy load are there.


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Nice hardware set-up...



I, too, seem to prefer (don't mind really) the heavier recoil of the heavier hitters in the .45 and .454 calibers...kinda nice, occasionally, really! Fun to take the range for guys who've never shot them...the expression on their face really says it all!



I, too, started out with .357 magnums (a 4" GP100 was my second revolver, behind my Single-Six) and it sort of grew on me.



I picked-up a used Glock 30 .45 acp in a trade a year ago and have ordered a LWD G30-L barrel for it and am having them ream it to .460 Rowland. That, and with a 23# recoil spring, it'll be my camping/hiking gun starting this spring!



.460 Rowland is not quite a full .44 magnum load...but it is touching the bottom realm of the caliber. Having a 10-shot semi-auto with a 4.6" barrel and 2x10-round magazines should make for sufficient self-defense against just about any 2 or 4-legged critter east of the Rockies!



I've CC'd my Alaskan in .454 Casull on a couple of hiking trips, but in a hip holster, that gets a little uncomfortable after a day or so!



It's just a great way to get a 'kick' outta life...Woot!


I may consider an Alaskan or 3" in the largest calibers. I need to work on load development, first.


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Well, the 44 has a wide range of bullet weights. So the options for a heavy load are there.


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Yeah I know,I've made loads from 180g -300g with several different powders. If you want a lot of recoil and muzzle flash just put a hot load of 296 powder behind a 180g bullet. 😋,it scared the crap out of me first time I shot 1 off,course that was right at the beginning of me having a 44 mag too 😁 .

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