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Old March 21st, 2017, 01:42 PM   #1
 
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Date of Smith & Wesson 10-5

Would someone be able to look up the shipping date on a Smith & Wesson Model 10-5 for me? Serial number is 3D284XX.

It has a pinned tapered barrel. Cylinders are not recessed. I got it on GB for about $350. The seller said it was "like new," and he wasn't kidding. Someone had fired it, and hadn't cleaned it, but other than that it's beautiful. Will take it out and shoot it tomorrow.



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Here is a picture of it:

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A 10-5 is 1962 -1977. I can't give you a specific date within that spread.

By the way, That's a GREAT tapered barrel model 10 you have !!! GOOD FIND !!
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A 10-5 is 1962 -1977. I can't give you a specific date within that spread.

By the way, That's a GREAT tapered barrel model 10 you have !!! GOOD FIND !!
Thanks. They made so many of them that they're normally a lot cheaper than most other S & W revolvers, but they sure are nice.
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Hmmmm......are you sure about the serial number? A 10-5 should have a serial number that starts with either a C or a D. Starting at some point in 1977 it went to a 2DXXXXX and held at 2D through 1978 then in 1979 skipped 3D and went to 4D. The year range is approximate but Supica & Nahas doesn't list any 3DXXXXX serial numbers for the Model 10. Kinda odd. Perhaps you have an odd or unusual serial number for a 10-5. For $50 S&W can you send a detailed letter with ship date, who is shipped to and other details. Maybe if you posed your question over on the S&W forum someone there would know a lot more. There are some real collector gurus there that know all the intracies of the world of S&W.
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1960s seems early for a 10-5. I think later 70s or newer is more likely.
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I had a Model 10 heavy barrel issued to me in December of 1970.
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The tapered barrel models were produced along side the heavy barrel models. I think the 10-5 was the tapered barrel and the 10-6 was the heavy barrel of the exact same gun. The dash numbers 5 & 6 overlap.
The same for the dash 7 (tapered) and dash 8 (heavy barrel) versions.

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Are you certain it's a 5 in barrel? Looks just like my Mod 10-4 tapered which I bought new in '67. By the way, +P ammo is not recommended in the tapered barrel.

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Hmmmm......are you sure about the serial number? A 10-5 should have a serial number that starts with either a C or a D. Starting at some point in 1977 it went to a 2DXXXXX and held at 2D through 1978 then in 1979 skipped 3D and went to 4D. The year range is approximate but Supica & Nahas doesn't list any 3DXXXXX serial numbers for the Model 10. Kinda odd. Perhaps you have an odd or unusual serial number for a 10-5. For $50 S&W can you send a detailed letter with ship date, who is shipped to and other details. Maybe if you posed your question over on the S&W forum someone there would know a lot more. There are some real collector gurus there that know all the intracies of the world of S&W.
Well, I looked at it again and it definitely is "3D."
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Are you certain it's a 5 in barrel? Looks just like my Mod 10-4 which I bought new in '67.
the 10 - 5 refers to the version of that model 10

S&W revolver models went through versions during their production runs. The first version was just a model 10. That was followed by a model 10 dash 1. Then a dash 2, 3, etc.

The dash 5 refers to the version of the model 10, not the barrel length.

And the tapered barrel has nothing to do with the +P rating. However, the early guns (pre model numbered) should not be used with +P ammo.

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This may help:
Smith & Wesson model changes

After reading Iowegan's post I went back and examined the chart. There is something amiss for the model 10 listings and there's a gap in the dates for the model 10; so that info's is a bit suspect. I can't vouch for that chart. I do recall seeing the same info in a similar format so maybe the author of that chart made a mistake when transcribing it.

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S&W started using numeric model numbers in 1959 and as each engineering change was made, the next dash number was used. The engineering changes do not track the same in all models .... in fact the Mod 10 was a unique exception. It started in 1959 as a pencil barrel. As more engineering changes were made, the odd dash numbers were for pencil barrels and the even numbers were for heavy barrels. The Dash 1 and Dash 2 were started in 1961. The Dash 3 & 4 started in 1962. The Dash 5 & 6 started in 1962, which held until 1967 when the Dash 7 & 8 came out. I think they are up to a dash 11/12 by now but I lost track???

So ... the Mod 10 Dash 5 was a pencil barrel made somewhere between 1962 and 1967. I have a Dash 6 heavy barrel (S/N D3507XX) that was made in 1967 ... near the end of the dash 5 & 6 production period. Obviously the OP's was made before mine ... probably a couple years before so 1965 sounds about right. Wish I could be more exact but my Jim Supica's Catalog of S&Ws got loaned out and never returned.

BTW, the chart that Petrol and Powder referred to in his post is NOT correct for the Mod 10. The dates are about right but the odd/even dash numbers are not. There never was a heavy barrel with an odd dash number. Prior to the Gun Control act of 1968, manufacturers did some strange things with their serial numbers .... probably to deceive their competition. Beginning in Jan of 1969, all US firearms manufacturers and importers had to use a serial number system that was approved by BATFE plus manufacturers had to report the number of firearms made in each category .... revolvers, pistols, rifles, and shotguns. This ended the mystic serial number stuff that Ruger & S&W were famous for.

Back in the 70's when LEOs started carrying 9mms, there were tons of S&W Mod 10 police trade ins. I was buying them for 50 bucks each or 60 bucks for hand picked. During that time, I had at least one of every dash number (and no-dash) up through a dash 8. Today there are still many Mod 10s available at smokin' deal prices ... about $300 for a very nice specimen .... less than half the price of other S&W K-frame revolvers made during the same period.

Here's my Mod 10-6 made during the same time period as the OP's dash 5:


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You could always email (or call) S&W CS with the serial Number and they'd tell you exactly when it was made. They were able to give me the birthday of my Model 19-3.
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Thanks for 'splaining the dash numbers. I said mine was a -4 but I was referring to the barrel length. I really don't know what if any dash it is. But it is a 4 in barrel purchased new in 1967 from my father's store and the ser. no is D3297XX, So it was either made in '67 or the previous year.
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