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Old March 17th, 2017, 06:51 PM   #16
 
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Get the Beretta, you will love shooting it and only have to load it half as often as the Vaquero!

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I am sorry but at his price point, I wouldn't get a 1911. Rock island or the lower end variety 1911s aren't that good. I have had some and they were finicky with ammo. YMMV


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..............I'm debating whether to take the plunge and get a good full sized auto for home defense, self defense, etc. I am totally new to autos, never even fired one before. But they're practical and have large capacity which I like. If I did go auto, .....................
Assuming the OP isn't just trolling - there are two statements above taken from the OP's remarks that are red flags.

First - The use of the concept of "Home Defense" to justify the acquisition of a handgun.

Second - That large capacity is somehow critical for self defense.

A weapon used for home defense doesn't have to be concealed or carried for long periods of time. A handgun is a poor substitute for a long gun. Handguns are selected because they are portable and concealable, not because they are great self defense tools. In fact, handguns suck at stopping human attackers but are often the only tool available. If you knew you were likely to engage in a deadly force encounter and had the opportunity to select a handgun or a long gun (such as a 12 ga. pump shotgun); it would be foolish to handicap yourself with a handgun.
If you want a handgun; GREAT! - GET ONE ! But don't use "Home Defense" as some sort of justification as for why you want a handgun.


High Capacity - Having lots of rounds in the gun is fun when you're playing. It's particularly fun when you're playing with some type of semi-auto firearm. It's cool to see someone run a series of plate racks with a semi-auto pistol and I can attest that it's equally as fun to actually do it. However, high capacity is not a huge component in terms of survival. They're not really "practical" as the OP alleges. It seems odd that the OP would opine that, considering in the prior sentence he states, " I am totally new to autos, never even fired one before. ". I think the OP just wants to buy a high capacity pistol; which is fine. Again, if you want one, BUY ONE !

If you're interested in a semi-auto pistol to be used as a range toy that may be called upon for self-defense; there are a lot of good choices.
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I would get a revolver it is more versatile for general use.
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Assuming the OP isn't just trolling - there are two statements above taken from the OP's remarks that are red flags.

First - The use of the concept of "Home Defense" to justify the acquisition of a handgun.

Second - That large capacity is somehow critical for self defense.

A weapon used for home defense doesn't have to be concealed or carried for long periods of time. A handgun is a poor substitute for a long gun. Handguns are selected because they are portable and concealable, not because they are great self defense tools. In fact, handguns suck at stopping human attackers but are often the only tool available. If you knew you were likely to engage in a deadly force encounter and had the opportunity to select a handgun or a long gun (such as a 12 ga. pump shotgun); it would be foolish to handicap yourself with a handgun.
If you want a handgun; GREAT! - GET ONE ! But don't use "Home Defense" as some sort of justification as for why you want a handgun.


High Capacity - Having lots of rounds in the gun is fun when you're playing. It's particularly fun when you're playing with some type of semi-auto firearm. It's cool to see someone run a series of plate racks with a semi-auto pistol and I can attest that it's equally as fun to actually do it. However, high capacity is not a huge component in terms of survival. They're not really "practical" as the OP alleges. It seems odd that the OP would opine that, considering in the prior sentence he states, " I am totally new to autos, never even fired one before. ". I think the OP just wants to buy a high capacity pistol; which is fine. Again, if you want one, BUY ONE !

If you're interested in a semi-auto pistol to be used as a range toy that may be called upon for self-defense; there are a lot of good choices.
I agree. You will go to the shooting range much more than you will be needing a weapon for self defense. Buy what you will enjoy and be comfortable with.
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If you want a "fun gun" I'd go with a SA revolver, a CC gun I would get a semi-auto.

FWIW I don't believe in a house gun instead I have two carry guns(big/small) the big is next to the bed while I'm home but when I leave both go with me, all the other guns are locked in the safe.
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As has been suggested before, rent a few different brands, styles, calibers to see what fits you!
I have pistols and revolvers from small and cute to big and bad and I love shooting them all.
Understand that the calibre you select will determine how much ammunition will cost.
I do not own anything that shoots 9mil, but it is very reasonably priced.
That would be something to factor into the equation.
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Just brought a friends girl to the range as she was thinking about a mid sized auto. I had a few mid to compacted sized autos and revolvers. 100 or so rounds latter it was the k framed revolver she had to have.
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If you want a "fun gun" I'd go with a SA revolver...
Why is a DA revolver not a "fun gun"? I find DA revolvers to be more fun, especially when you can dump the empties and reload the cylinder in a matter of seconds. One can 'unload' downrange all the cartridges in a few seconds shooting DA, or you can play slow-fire target shooter with the SA function of the gun. Yes, SA revolvers are nostalgic and useful for CASS shooting, but I just can't see getting a centerfire SA revolver for general use when there are many DA guns out there that will do the same thing, and more. My only SA revolvers are blackpowder cap-and-ball guns.
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^I just enjoy shooting my Blackhawk more than I ever did the KGP or KSRH I owned, maybe because I tricked it up a bit. But that gun is one I don't mind slow fire and slow loading. When it comes time to dump rounds down range fast I reach for a semi-auto and do it right
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Go SIG P series for da/sa if you don't want a glock and don't like the looks of the Beretta. A P226 9mm is a very nice weapon and should have won against Beretta IMHO.

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It DID win. The military stated it didnt believe Sig could supply the required parts that the contract stated, so they gave the contract to Beretta.

The Sig 226 is a seriously good and PROVEN pistol.


As far as the OP,,

Depends on the area you live in and WHAT you want it for.

Comparing an auto basically built for conceal carry and self defense is pretty far away from a cowboy action one would open carry around a rural area for a woods gun.

Thats not apples to oranges.

Its apples to watermelons.

If you want a dual purpose " fun to shoot, accurate, and can also be used for self defense,,

Look at a CZ SP 01. Accurate as hell, fun to plink with, great ergo, good trigger, good night sights, light weight, 100% reliable, and you can still conceal it if needed. Decockers are very safe to carry. Once de-cocked, it aint going bang without a intentional FULL trigger pull. Its all there,, no additions or alterations needed.

My favorite range & hunting revolver is a Ruger Blackhawk. My favorite range auto is a CZ 75 BD. ( pretty much the same gun as the SP 01, but no picanny rail) But the factory BD sights suck IMO. With the addition of some TruGlo TFX ( $120) they are a tack driver for an auto. My Favorite EDC is a CZ 75 D compact.

Petrol and Powder nailed it IMO.

" If you're interested in a semi-auto pistol to be used as a range toy that may be called upon for self-defense; there are a lot of good choices."

Everyone has different needs and preferences.

Just dont go buy some $300 pile of plastic and expect too much from it. You will pretty much get what you pay for.

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I would agree on the 4.2" GP100 for the revolver

While I like the P-series pistols, I would not overlook a good used CZ75B. Accurate and fit the hand rather well (a tip 'of the hat to Browning and his HiPower). Even new, CZ's don't cost an arm and a leg, plus they are all metal.
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