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This is a discussion on Guardian 32 acp with Lehigh Xtreme Cavitator ammo test within the Pistols & Revolvers forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; I wanted to share my experience/test with the Lehigh 32 Auto 50gr Xtreme Cavitator Ammunition in the NAA 32 ACP Guardian. I carry in the ...


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Old March 15th, 2017, 08:23 AM   #1
 
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Guardian 32 acp with Lehigh Xtreme Cavitator ammo test

I wanted to share my experience/test with the Lehigh 32 Auto 50gr Xtreme Cavitator Ammunition in the NAA 32 ACP Guardian.

I carry in the front pocket. I own several hand guns ranging from 22 - 45 cal. My preferred carry is the Ruger LC9s or the Gardian 32acp. I find myself carrying the Gardian a lot more because I just don't notice it. I know!! I'm 63 yo have been in my share of bar room brawls (in my younger days) and other touchy situations and have never needed a firearm. I can hit where I'm aiming and feel armed with the Guardian. Therefore, I was excited to discover a manufactured 32 cartridge that was capable of 13.5" penetration and produce a significant wound channel. The bullet tip is shaped like a square drive screwdriver with a groove cut around it. I really wanted it to work but was skeptical about it being able to feed properly. so I ordered 2 boxes (40 rounds) to test.

Here is the test and results. 1 FMJ is chambered to begin the sequence in each test.

Mag 1: Loaded with 6 rds (full mag) Ext Cav.
Result: Feed failure (jam) round 4. Cleared jam. Round 5 jammed. Cleared.

Mag 2: Loaded with 6 rds (full mag) Ext Cav.
Result: Feed failure (jam) round 5. Stopped

Mag 3: Changed Mag. Loaded with 6 rds (full mag Ext Cav.
Result: Feed failure (jam) round 4. Stopped

At this point it was obvious I could not carry a full mag of this cartridge.

Mag 4: Loaded 3 FMJ under 3 Ext Cav,
Result: No Failure

Mag 5: Loaded 3 FMJ under 3 Ext Cav,
Result: Feed failure (jam) round 3

Mag 6: Loaded 4 FMJ under 2 Ext Cav,
Result: No Failure

Repeated three times with no failure.

Conclusions: I have fired over 200 FMJ rounds from my Gardian with no failure to feed. I feel from the above unscientific test that I can be confident carrying 3 EXT CAV and 4 FMJ (1 chambered w 2+4 in the mag). YMV




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32ACP is semi-rimmed. Were you getting rim lock? Hollow point bullets are shorter than FMJ, and the 32 will rim-lock hollow points. When I carry my Kel-tec P32(rarely) I load it with a Winchester flat nose in the chamber, a flat nose as my first round in the magazine, then FMJs for the rest of the magazine load. There are kits for the P32 that have a wire that goes down the back strap of the magazine, inside the mag, and push hollow point rounds forward so they dont rim lock. Could something like this be done to your mags to prevent rim lock?

If the issue isnt rim lock, then you have found a round that cant be trusted in your pistol. I know this doesn't help, but I only run FMJ in my P32, and just figure I will only be able to use it to get to cover, and escape. I hope I never have to use my 32 for that purpose. I usually carry a Kahr CM45, but there are times when the little pocket rocket 32 is great.
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32ACP is semi-rimmed. Were you getting rim lock? Hollow point bullets are shorter than FMJ, and the 32 will rim-lock hollow points. When I carry my Kel-tec P32(rarely) I load it with a Winchester flat nose in the chamber, a flat nose as my first round in the magazine, then FMJs for the rest of the magazine load. There are kits for the P32 that have a wire that goes down the back strap of the magazine, inside the mag, and push hollow point rounds forward so they dont rim lock. Could something like this be done to your mags to prevent rim lock?

If the issue isnt rim lock, then you have found a round that cant be trusted in your pistol. I know this doesn't help, but I only run FMJ in my P32, and just figure I will only be able to use it to get to cover, and escape. I hope I never have to use my 32 for that purpose. I usually carry a Kahr CM45, but there are times when the little pocket rocket 32 is great.
I originally thought the jammed cartridge was catching on the groove in the previous bullet. However, here is a picture of a jam on the last round. I'm not a gunsmith but it appears that the shape and length of the cartridge combined with the magazine spring getting weaker stops it from feeding properly. Here is a link to view the ammo if interested. It may be just loaded a little to light, I can tell the difference in recoil between it and the FMJ. The jam is easily cleared by hitting the butt of the slide with the heel of my hand, but not something I would want to have to do in a self defense situation. It should work fine for the first two rounds.

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i only use fmj ball ammo in my naa guardian 32acp: nice, solid, reliable, compact ccw. in fact all my centerfire ammo is fmj ball, or wadcutter or semi wadcutter in revolvers. i only carry what i practice with on the range.


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