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Old July 25th, 2010, 03:14 PM   #1
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1911 - .45 vs 9mm

My next gun purchase will be a STI Spartan. Trying to decide between .45 and 9mm. I shot the .45 today. LOVED it. But, I've been a pretty loyal 9mm guy for years.

Has anyone shot both? I've never shot a 9mm 1911. Is it as enjoyable to shoot as the .45? I was amazed on how accurate this gun is in .45.

I'll be using the gun primarily for IDPA/USPSA, but after it proves itself for reliability it may end up being my HD gun. I will not carry it.

Concerning ammo cost - I know .45 is significantly more expensive, but is it more expensive to reload .45 than 9mm as well? Or does reloading bring the costs closer together?

In general, is one caliber typically more accurate than the other?

One last thing - anyone know of any special 2011 1911's coming out next year for the 100 yr anniv?



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Old July 25th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #2
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My thoughts are captured in the attachment. Reloading does make it much more affordable if you were to shoot the same number of rounds as factory but that generally doesn't happen. Thats isn't a bad thing though shooting more rounds.

Once you have the cases then you can load cast bullets pretty reasonably in 45.
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Yeah, I know .45 leaves a bigger hole, but that's not my primary concern. I'm fine w/ 9mm, but I'm trying to find out how 9mm "works" in a 1911.

Really, for those who have shot 9mm 1911's, are they fun to shoot? Accurate? Or is the caliber too light for the all steel gun. Any problems that 9mm 1911's are known for? This will be my 1st 1911, so I'm getting any and all info I can.

If I still can't make up my mind, I may end up picking up the 9mm this year and waiting for an anniversary year .45.
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In the competition you will use it in, do you have to "make major" or anything like that? That could push you towards the 45.

I have heard that 1911s are pretty sweet to shoot when chambered for 9mm, however I just kinda think that if you don't have a 1911 yet, it should be a 45. The two go together like peanut butter and jelly.
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A 1911 type pistol in 9mm doesn't seem "right" to me.

I like to buy my handguns in the caliber they were designed around, for example my CZ-85b is probably one of the best 9mm handguns I will ever own.

A 1911 in .45 is an awesome weapon, if you get a 9mm 1911 you'll be saying " I shoulda got the .45"

9mm is much easier on the wallet though, you sure as heck can't get .45 ACP for $200 per 1,000.
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Really, for those who have shot 9mm 1911's, are they fun to shoot? Accurate? Or is the caliber too light for the all steel gun. Any problems that 9mm 1911's are known for?
I have a Kimber Pro Carry in 9mm (alloy frame). It shoots VERY much like a .45ACP in an all steel frame. When I told a friend that, he looked at me like all my marbles had fallen out. Then he shot it. Sha-ZAM, Batman. For factory rounds the cost savings are significant. For reloads they tend to run about four cents per round less in 9mm (I do - not - shoot cast bullets).

Fun? A BLAST! Problems? Only keeping enough ammunition to shoot as much as you want. -
Accuracy? I do not see any difference between the 9mm and .45ACP.

For competition I would look (as stated above) at "making major" with a 9mm. .45ACP is easy.
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I have a Kimber Pro Carry in 9mm (alloy frame). It shoots VERY much like a .45ACP in an all steel frame. When I told a friend that, he looked at me like all my marbles had fallen out. Then he shot it. Sha-ZAM, Batman. For factory rounds the cost savings are significant. For reloads they tend to run about four cents per round less in 9mm (I do - not - shoot cast bullets).

Fun? A BLAST! Problems? Only keeping enough ammunition to shoot as much as you want. -
Accuracy? I do not see any difference between the 9mm and .45ACP.

For competition I would look (as stated above) at "making major" with a 9mm. .45ACP is easy.
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Thanks, and getting 'em both may be what ends up happening. I figure if I get the 9mm and love it, then no harm. But, if I end up thinking...
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" I shoulda got the .45"
...then the timing will be perfect to get a 2011 1911 in it's original .45 caliber.
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Woo Hoo, sounds like a plan to me!
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A 1911 in any other caliber than .45acp would be kinda sacriligious,but thats another thread...sorry I like that big old honkin bullet...
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I gotta side with LAGun. I just picked up the Remington 1911R1 just 'cause I had to have one. I also have a Dan Wesson Pointman 7, mighty fine gun. I have shot some friends 9mm 1911's and they were a ball to fire but............they were not 45's. I guess it's that old dog, new tricks thing.
For that reason I picked up a CZ 85b. Boy, is that a fun gun.
Bottom line, your money, get what makes you smile. Just be ready 'cause we will most likely make fun of you.
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My next gun purchase will be a STI Spartan.
Those are nice. Whichever caliber you choose, you can't go wrong.

(I don't own any 1911's chambered for anything but the .45 ACP. I guess I am a purist.)

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Bottom line, your money, get what makes you smile. Just be ready 'cause we will most likely make fun of you.
I'm a big boy, I can handle it.

Heck, I ride a Sportster, I'm used to taking abuse. (except for when we're leaving a stoplight )
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I'm a big boy, I can handle it.

Heck, I ride a Sportster, I'm used to taking abuse. (except for when we're leaving a stoplight )
BuckeyeBlast Caliber aside, Why are going the way of the Spartan?
I am not knocking it (more like fascinated). In fact I keep going back to look at the Spartan myself.
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All BS aside, 9mm is the better option for paper punching and range play. I myself am building a 9mm 1911 from a RIA in .38super (what the base gun is for the spartan). 9mm is cheaper, higher capacity (nominal), weaker, lower recoiling, and easier to find. Federal Champion is currently 9.50$ at WW. If you have options, all calibers aside from .45 in a 1911 are better suited to have a ramped barrel. The 9mm spartan would be the way to go for the main philosophy of target work.
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A 1911 in any other caliber than .45acp would be kinda sacrilegious
Only if you have not shot one.

For punching paper and just having fun, they are a blast.
For serious social work, the .45!

I'm working on a new poster. .45ACP, because double stack magazines are stupid.
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