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Old March 27th, 2017, 05:40 PM   #46
 
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this is a tough question, as what you wear, where you go, a gun's feel, etc are variable. my primary rule is to get something simple that you enjoy practicing with, even if it is just a 22lr. a hit with a 22lr always trumps a miss with a bigger caliber. thus a ruger lcr 22lr is one of my main choices.


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..... A friend told me, I know you like revolvers, but trust me, don't depend on a revolver in a dangerous, sudden incident where firepower is critical. He said, get a pistol that you can shoot and than holds several rounds you can quickly discharge....

From the op's #10 post. This statement is lack of maturity , insecure and a definite lack of propper training. Don't forget your mind set is just as much a weapon as the gun.
I would find more intelligent friends.

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I would only consider a pocket pistol as a BUG, not as my primary SD gun. I prefer to carry a GP100 in OWB at 4 o'clock as primary...
The problem with that, is that one needs to have the clothing and physique to be able to conceal a large handgun. For me, eight months out of the year I am in a short sleeve shirt and shorts, when not in uniform. I am 5' 9" and about 185 lbs. Unless I'm wearing a decent size coat, it would be pretty tough to properly carry my 4" GP100. Recently, I obtained a gun that I have wanted for nearly 30 years: An L.W. Seecamp .32 ACP pistol. To me, it is the 'all-the-time' carry pistol. Pistols like the LCP and Kahr do have a somewhat more potent round, but I find them to still be a bit large for shorts and T-shirt attire.
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I would only consider a pocket pistol as a BUG, not as my primary SD gun. I prefer to carry a GP100 in OWB at 4 o'clock as primary...
The problem with that, is that one needs to have the clothing and physique to be able to conceal a large handgun. For me, eight months out of the year I am in a short sleeve shirt and shorts, when not in uniform. I am 5' 9" and about 185 lbs. Unless I'm wearing a decent size coat, it would be pretty tough to properly carry my 4" GP100. Recently, I obtained a gun that I have wanted for nearly 30 years: An L.W. Seecamp .32 ACP pistol. To me, it is the 'all-the-time' carry pistol. Pistols like the LCP and Kahr do have a somewhat more potent round, but I find them to still be a bit large for shorts and T-shirt attire.
Good. Yeah, I understand. Above is the example that I prefer. I hope that was clear. Granted I am 6'4", 185lb 44L suit size and 34 waist, so I have space at 4 o'clock to conceal well. In summer, I wear shorts, untucked hawaiian or polo shirt with an undershirt. I wear undershirts even when it is 90F and 90% humidity for absorption anyway. Also I have not found a pocket pistol I can shoot well at 10 yards, but might be my own limitation.

I think the only key point I would recommend to anyone is to carry what you can shoot accurately rather than carry what is most comfortable to carry. Each of us must define what that is for ourselves. We have options so don't settle.
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I recommend you carry something. A 22 in your pocket is better than a cannon at home!


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380 should not be used for a Primary weapon. It is under powered. A 380 Pocket gun should be used for a secondary only. I carry the LC9S and more recently the LCR9mm with a pico in my pocket. I use to carry the LCP's but have moved on. And the New LCPll is dangerous for a pocket gun. Crazy light trigger with a weird preload and then quick surprise.
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380 should not be used for a Primary weapon. It is under powered. A 380 Pocket gun should be used for a secondary only...
You must frequent 'bad areas' and have had a few shootouts in your day...

A .380 pocket gun is better than no gun. Even a .22 rimfire pocket pistol could be enough to slow down an attacker so you can run the other way. A CCW-er should carry and practice with what works for them and their situation. Any handgun is an imperfect defense weapon.

I imagine that some 'big gun' civilian CCW-ers envision a scenario such as this: Attacker approaches CCW-er. CCW stands firmly planted in one spot, draws, and shoots one or two shots. Attacker is then instantly lying an a crumpled heap at the feet of the CCW-er, who calmly holds his now-smoking gun by his side...

Civilian CCW is mainly about survival and escape from danger, not complete threat mitigation. Much like a fire extinguisher is not a replacement for pre-fire prevention and a full-size fire pumper apparatus, carrying a concealable handgun isn't the only part of self-protection in a public setting. There are some situations where a civilian CCW-er can't legally carry their firearm. What do you do then?
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...Also I have not found a pocket pistol I can shoot well at 10 yards...
To me, 10 yards (30 feet) is a big distance, and not a typical defensive engagement distance for civilian CCW. I consider arms-length out to around 15-20 ft to be the distance 'to shoot for' with pocket gun practice and deployment.
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380 should not be used for a Primary weapon. It is under powered. A 380 Pocket gun should be used for a secondary only.
That's funny. As in ridiculous funny. The guy at a gun store we visited yesterday pretty much said the same thing, only he took it a step further, and informed me that a 380 MAY NOT be able to penetrate Carhartt denim. I'll ask you the same question I asked him "And you know this to be true how?" I had stopped at the store so I could have my recoil sensitive wife hold and feel an LC380, to see if it would be something she would feel comfortable using as a defensive weapon. She actually didn't care for it and prefers the LCR in .22WMR that she currently uses. Either firearm used by someone who is confident in their shooting ability will be just as deadly as any larger caliber hand cannon.

The sad part of this story is that this idiot is employed by a large gun store and he's doling out misinformation to people who trust that he knows what he is talking about.

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...Also I have not found a pocket pistol I can shoot well at 10 yards...
To me, 10 yards (30 feet) is a big distance, and not a typical defensive engagement distance for civilian CCW.
Typical SD for me is avoiding the fight with situational awareness, but I train for other scenarios too.

There are lots of scenarios and practice with your primary is important to keep muscle memory fresh and slow time down during chaotic emergencies.

As for me, I practice from compression distance and up to IDPA stage distances = 20 yards to hone my skill. Of course a compressed ready shot is a different scenario than the outer limit 20 yard shot.

Odds are I will never need it, but I prepare none the less. How much preparation is a personal choice we all make.
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Hey guys so I've been on a quest to find the perfect concealed carry/self defense firearm. I'm essentially a firearms newbie. Never fired a semi auto in my life. Only revolvers, which I like a lot, but don't think are practical for self/home defense that much. So, as someone totally new to autos, can you guys recommend a good smaller sized one for occasional carry and also to double as a home defense gun? Preferably below 400 bucks or so? I've thought about the LCP or the Kel Tech 32 or something similar. Maybe a Glock 22. Anyway, the other day, I ordered a Bulldog in 44 spl, a round I've had great luck with and can shoot well, and had one a few years ago, but let it go. It's a good size in a good caliber that I can shoot, and I had my local gun shop order it for me. But now after thinking it over, I'm thinking I'd be better served by an auto for self/defense/home defense. Because of the greater capacity of an auto. So I'm considering getting an LCP or Kel Tech or something along those lines instead. Done a lot of thinking and just think an auto is better for a life and death situation. What do you guys think is a good pocket/self defense pistol for a first time auto user?
I'm a little late to the party here. You could find a 9mm s&w shield for that kind of money. 3.1 inch barrel only 19oz. and extended mag 8+1. I carry the performance center model. Easy to conceal and enough firepower for close encounter IMO. My daughter has LC9S she loves and is similar to the shield. As far as home defense I prefer one of my 357 GPs. The odds of me ever needing to use the gun at home are extremely remote. The odds of ever needing more than six shots at home are even more remote. Again IMO.
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That's funny. As in ridiculous funny. The guy at a gun store we visited yesterday pretty much said the same thing, only he took it a step further, and informed me that a 380 MAY NOT be able to penetrate Carhartt denim. I'll ask you the same question I asked him "And you know this to be true how?" I had stopped at the store so I could have my recoil sensitive wife hold and feel an LC380, to see if it would be something she would feel comfortable using as a defensive weapon. She actually didn't care for it and prefers the LCR in .22WMR that she currently uses. Either firearm used by someone who is confident in their shooting ability will be just as deadly as any larger caliber hand cannon.

The sad part of this story is that this idiot is employed by a large gun store and he's doling out misinformation to people who trust that he knows what he is talking about.
If you can't shoot a particular gun then yes, carry a 22.cal or a can of mace. As far as ballistics? how do I know that 380 is underpowered? My God, there are a thousand ballistics test provided everywhere. My try the Website Ballistics 101 for starters.
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You must frequent 'bad areas' and have had a few shootouts in your day...



A .380 pocket gun is better than no gun. Even a .22 rimfire pocket pistol could be enough to slow down an attacker so you can run the other way. A CCW-er should carry and practice with what works for them and their situation. Any handgun is an imperfect defense weapon.



I imagine that some 'big gun' civilian CCW-ers envision a scenario such as this: Attacker approaches CCW-er. CCW stands firmly planted in one spot, draws, and shoots one or two shots. Attacker is then instantly lying an a crumpled heap at the feet of the CCW-er, who calmly holds his now-smoking gun by his side...



Civilian CCW is mainly about survival and escape from danger, not complete threat mitigation. Much like a fire extinguisher is not a replacement for pre-fire prevention and a full-size fire pumper apparatus, carrying a concealable handgun isn't the only part of self-protection in a public setting. There are some situations where a civilian CCW-er can't legally carry their firearm. What do you do then?


I agree with this
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If you can't shoot a particular gun then yes, carry a 22.cal or a can of mace. As far as ballistics? how do I know that 380 is underpowered? My God, there are a thousand ballistics test provided everywhere. My try the Website Ballistics 101 for starters.
I tried that website. Here's a ballistic comparison of the 380 up against the 38 special (the same one that has been knocking bad guys down for decades)

Showing bullet type, grain, muzzle energy, velocity

38 Special LRN 158 200 755
380 Auto LRN 95 190 951

I'd venture to say...the 380 holds the edge.
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I tried that website. Here's a ballistic comparison of the 380 up against the 38 special (the same one that has been knocking bad guys down for decades)

Showing bullet type, grain, muzzle energy, velocity

38 Special LRN 158 200 755
380 Auto LRN 95 190 951

I'd venture to say...the 380 holds the edge.
Lol, I noticed you did not compare the 380 to the 9mm. If you want to believe the 380 has the terminal performance of 9mm, then I would have to say get in the real world. Really too ridiculous to even address this nonsense.
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