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Old March 7th, 2017, 04:22 AM   #16
 
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I carried a Ruger SR9c for a few years, but went to the dark side and bought a Sig P938 because I wanted something I could pocket carry. My main requirements were to get something in 9mm that would fit in my pocket, and then I researched my choices and chose 3 to seriously look at...then I shot all 3.

You will get a list of what people carry when you ask a question like that, so the best thing is for you to compile a list of Needs and start looking...but definitely shoot your possibles before you choose.



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Old March 7th, 2017, 04:51 AM   #17
 
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IMO a pocket pistol is not a good home defense weapon, for many reasons. OP you need two different weapons.

I am not a fan of pocket weapons myself, but a Glock 22 can be concealed, just not in a pocket. I concealed a 1911 for years as a LEO with no difficulty. Getting a handgun out of a waistband holster is much quicker, IMO, than digging in a pocket.

If you can only have one gun, under $400, I would suggest Sar B6P. A compromise between a full size, and a compact, and about $300 new. Tanfoglio Witness is a tad more expensive, but they are basically both CZ clones.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 06:31 AM   #18
 
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For pocket carry, I'm leaning towards an LCP either in 380 or 9mm. Or a keltech. Something that wouldn't print much or any (although I usually don't wear baggy clothes so that could be an issue but I wouldn't be necessarily carrying everywhere anyway.
I've carried an LCP daily for 7 years so I guess I'm biased but what I've found is it's all about weight.

I tried a Sig 232 first and yeah it fit my pocket but at 16ozs(empty) it felt like a bag of rocks pulling and banging, my Kel-tec P-11 also "fits" but it's size and weight isn't what I consider a pocket gun. Because to me a pocket gun is something you carry and forget like a wallet, sure there's limitations but those are acceptable IMHO for always having a gun on my person.
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It will probably be awhile before I feel ready for actual pocket carry, although I have carried a gun with me in the car before when I've gone places. I too avoid most dangerous situation and always tend to have my wits about me and be aware of my surroundings, so I'm really not in many diecy situations out in public. That said as we know anything can happen. I realize that for pocket carry and home defense you need separate weapons. Mainly what I'm trying to decide is if I should keep the Bulldog for a home defense gun, or go with say a Glock 23. I like revolvers. But I like the higher capacity of autos such as a double stack. And I feel it's advantageous in any situation to have the most firepower you can comfortably and practically have.

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From a purely firepower and shootability point-of-view, a quality large frame, double-stack 9mm with good quality defensive rounds such as the Federal HST, Speer Gold Dots or Hornady Critical Defense, would be hard to beat for home defense purposes. There is nothing wrong with choosing a revolver, (I have a .357 Service-Six) but the extra rounds are nice. It's better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them.

For pocket carry, a .380 like the LCP or LCP II with it's extremely compact size and low weight is just about ideal. For belt or shoulder rig carry, there are better choices like a sub-compact 9mm, or 40. I have the LCP II for pocket carry, a 9mm S&W Shield for concealed belt carry, a 1911 with a laser/light combo for home defense, the .357 Service-Six for open woods carry/hunting and a Mark I target for plinking. I may have additional wants but I don't have any more needs.
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The 9mm is a good shootable round from all I hear. My buddy who is ex army swears by the 40 s&w he said he loves it. I don't see myself belt carrying too much unless I'm out and about on the weekends or traveling out of town or something. Bottom line I just need to shoot more and familiarize myself more with auto loaders.
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Mainly what I'm trying to decide is if I should keep the Bulldog for a home defense gun, or go with say a Glock 23.
A G-23 is the second part of my CC plan, if I'm going to carry a gun on my belt it will have at least a 10 round capacity. The only place a revolver fits in my gun battery is as a woods gun because I hunt deer with it.

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I remember being a newbee and going on the perfect pocket pistol quest, many years ago. What a trip. Started with a J frame 38 special, moved up to 45 acp 1911's , several different incarnations of those , the 9mm Luger's many tried all found wanting , 32 acp's a few came and went the 380's were tried...no perfection there . 45 acp snub nosed revolver , almost but not quite perfection. After all that , the closest thing to perfection for me, is right back where I started all those years ago , with a J-frame 38 special but this one's an air weight. That's the one that's closest to perfect.
That's as close to the perfect pocket pistol I can come up with.....truth is , there is no perfect...everything in life is a compromise.
Good luck in your perfect pocket pistol quest.
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IMHO, Safety is an issue for pocket carry. And although there are several really nice small 9mm's I would recommend for holster carry, I would NOT carry a "cocked and locked" for a pocket carry.

Therefore, I would recommend a CZ Rami 2075 D. The decockers are extremely safe and quite simply, wont go bang unless YOU make them go bang with a full trigger squeeze. They are 100% reliable , very accurate, and will run any ammo you feed it flawlessly. Point and pull. No safety needed.
But they are $600, not $400.

Revolver wise, I like the Ruger LCR 9mm. Nothing to snag, fits in a pocket, and its stiff trigger makes it very safe. Point and pull. No safety needed.

Keep in mind, if you buy a cheap auto, you will generally get exactly what you paid for.

There are some cheaper priced revolvers, like charter arms, that will run and function fine though.

Do your homework on reviews.

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Pocket Pistol?

To be perfectly clear, I don't think anyone is suggesting pocket carry without a pocket holster. One that covers the trigger completely.


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I have both revolvers and pistols and carry both, but most of the time I carry a LCR size , about 80% of the time. But for my nightstand it is always my six shot, 4".357 mag with two speed loaders right there. I have been a revolver boy for over 50 years, I shoot them better and I am confident that 99.99999999+ % of the time, when the trigger is pulled there will be a loud noise.
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First off it is very easy for me to spend your money! That being said there is no gun in my opinion that is great for pocket carry and also a home defense gun, you need two! If you can't swing two immediately I believe I would first get a keltec P3AT or a Ruger LCP. If you find one of the old models you can buy one for 200 or maybe less. These guns will fit in a pocket holster in you pocket so you can carry. At night keep it on the night stand, not perfect but better than nothing! As soon as you can swing it you should get a full size gun you can shoot well. I would say 38 special and up. That is my opinion and it and a dollar and half will buy you a cup of coffee


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This is one of those things you must decide for yourself. My primary carry gun is a S&W Shield 9mm and a spare magazine in my back pocket. I usually wear loose clothing and an OWB holster.

When I need a pocket carry I have my Sig Sauer P238, although I'm thinking of picking up an LCP II and selling the P238. I don't really like the LCP (1 or 2) as neither gun comes close to being as shootable as the P238 but I don't like the idea of possibly forgetting to click off that safety in a self defense situation. I consider a pocket gun a very close quarters, get me to my car or my home solution where I can get to better firepower.

I have a small gun safe in my truck with a Canik TP9V2 with 19 rounds of 147 grain HST bad guy repellent w/ a spare 18 rd magazine and that is there because it's inexpensive, dependable firepower with significant capacity that should be sufficient to fend 'em off long enough to make a run for it in my truck. It's striker-fired, no safety, pull the trigger goodness that's cheap enough that if someone takes the time to break into the safe, it's not a huge loss.

For home I keep a CZ SP-01 Tactical in a bio-metric gun safe by the bed with a Streamlight TLR-1s attached, an extra 18 rd magazine & an 800 lumen hand held flashlight so I can light up whatever is in front of me w/o pointing the gun at them unnecessarily.

All this may be overkill or some may consider it not enough but it fits my lifestyle & comfort level. YMMV
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This is one of those things you must decide for yourself. My primary carry gun is a S&W Shield 9mm and a spare magazine in my back pocket. I usually wear loose clothing and an OWB holster.

When I need a pocket carry I have my Sig Sauer P238, although I'm thinking of picking up an LCP II and selling the P238. I don't really like the LCP (1 or 2) as neither gun comes close to being as shootable as the P238 but I don't like the idea of possibly forgetting to click off that safety in a self defense situation. I consider a pocket gun a very close quarters, get me to my car or my home solution where I can get to better firepower.

I have a small gun safe in my truck with a Canik TP9V2 with 19 rounds of 147 grain HST bad guy repellent w/ a spare 18 rd magazine and that is there because it's inexpensive, dependable firepower with significant capacity that should be sufficient to fend 'em off long enough to make a run for it in my truck. It's striker-fired, no safety, pull the trigger goodness that's cheap enough that if someone takes the time to break into the safe, it's not a huge loss.

For home I keep a CZ SP-01 Tactical in a bio-metric gun safe by the bed with a Streamlight TLR-1s attached, an extra 18 rd magazine & an 800 lumen hand held flashlight so I can light up whatever is in front of me w/o pointing the gun at them unnecessarily.

All this may be overkill or some may consider it not enough but it fits my lifestyle & comfort level. YMMV


Honestly though you can't possibly compare shootability between a pocket pistol and full size handgun. They are totally different animals all together. The gun you need in a out of the house encounter is actually going to be the one you have on you. Realistically a full size or even mid sized isn't likely going to be there if you aren't wearing a suit coat. That pocket gun fills this area very nicely.
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If your worried about capacity just carry one revolver in your right pocket and another one in your left. Then when you run into those multiple attacker situations (hey.. we all do) just pull em both out and blast those 5 or 6 perps away.
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